Posted on 02/14/2020 4:45:21 PM PST by Vermont Lt
Steve Bannon has a very good daily podcast covering news about the virus. Steven Hatfil, perhaps our finest biological weapons expert, is a regular participant.
There is reason to suspect that this outbreak began as early as last October, which means that the risk of this being global is higher than previously expected.
Predictions are that 2/3 of the world population will be infected before this thing burns out.
It is already seriously impacting the Chinese workforce. Many factories have been unable to restart since Chinese New Year.
This is a problem for us because most of our medicines are now reliant upon Chinese production. Either they are made there outright, or their precursor chemicals are. This is true for India as well.
Joe Kernan had a guest this last week, his name escapes me but he used to be with PIMCO, who warns that if the interruption in China continues that the shelves of Walmart will be empty in one month. A consequence of Just In Time production and outsourced manufacturing. He was not trying to be dramatic, this is a projection from the current Covid-19 problems in China.
The travellers were among the more than 2,200 passengers and crew on the Westerdam cruise ship, which was turned away by five ports before disembarking in Cambodia.
An 83-year-old American passenger was diagnosed with the coronavirus a day after she left the ship.
The tourists who were kept from boarding KLM flight 810 are still in Malaysia, along with another group of Dutch citizens suspected to have had contact with the infected American woman.
Dutch RIVM National Institute for Public Health and the Environment estimated that 11 people were not allowed on the plane. A number of Dutch citizens who were aboard the Westerdam have already returned to the Netherlands, where they will be monitored daily by local health authorities.
Ninety-one Dutch citizens were aboard the Holland America Line cruise liner, a spokesman for the RIVM said by phone. He could not confirm the number of Dutch passengers who had already returned to the Netherlands.
I dunno about special cleaning but I use salt and vinegar to clean my copper-bottomed pans - both antimicrobial and both nontoxic and the pans are over 30 years old. Expense shouldn’t be an issue in hospitals, either. My DH’s recent non-fatal heart attack/stenting ran $100K, not including doctors. (thanks to medicare out of pocket about $1100, not including doctors)
I think you just hit on something - babytalk names! woo woo for woo woo !! Argue over that, bureaucrats !
that’s a relief maybe. And at least the old guy got to check that one last trip home off his bucket list. Good for him. RIP Mr. Gilbert.
The number of cases without the cruise ship numbers was accurate
but the percentage was based off a fixed number I had used for testing
and had forgot to change back. I should have been using the Row specific
number.
I'll be posting an updated spread sheet in a couple of hours, and
that percentage cell will show proper data from then on.
No hospital is going to refit their hospital in copper hardware. No hospital ops manager is going to add vinegar and water to their maintenance protocols. Please, just stop.
They want to clean it, kill it, and move on. You have no idea of the time constraints these folks are under. They are not polishing anything except the floor. They are timed to the minute. Spending an extra ten seconds on thousands of doors in a hospital every day is a none starter.
Please, someone that works in hospital operations help me out with this.
Really? Do I need to summon Humblegunner?
“All the crematoriums of Hubei are backed up & cannot take bodies.”
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1228451610868830209.html
who?
Copper Cleaning: I use catsup/ketchup.
not to mention. the expense of the copper. No this is not feasible for hospitals we have disinfectants to use on hard surfaces
*** Really? Do I need to summon (name redacted)? ***
Please don’t.
Come on, you’ve been here as long as me. He is the blog flammer. LOL
Why doesn’t everyone get it? A “bug” has a small number of of surface proteins that can each latch onto a specific surface protein on a cell before infection can happen. If your genetic shuffle doesn’t happen to have those surface proteins, you won’t get that disease. Also many may have has an earlier similar “bug” and their immune system is already primed to fight it. Cowpox vs small pox for example.
But what stops a pandemic before everyone else is dead? Simple answer? I don’t know.
Viruses seem to be nature’s way to limit populations. If something is getting out of hand or has mutated in an unusual way, a virus will correct the imbalance.
Just as mutations happen in viruses, they happen in man. The will generally be a decent percent who survive.
He doesn’t come to mind...
AKA the Jinping Zing...
I’ll take a stab at your question: isolation and lack of vector seems the obvious answer.
Infected villages become no-go zones. No people in, no people out. No vector. Outbreak kills off 90% of the village (10% herd immunity hopefully), the village becomes ‘haunted ground’ or ‘sour ground’ or ‘evil ground’ or ‘sacred ground’ whatever it takes for the locals to avoid it. By the time someone gets around to defying the curse, the virus has passed beyond survivability.
China has a bat and rat problem. Compounded by their obsession with building concrete ghost cities aka 21st century bat and rat caves. And until they tell the envirowackos to bugger off, and reduce those numbers by hundreds of millions, and close the bat caves to guided tours which get poo’d on, they will continue to churn out epidemic after epidemic after epidemic. Right now they have (at least) three epidemics going on at the same time, swine flu, bird flu and bat flu. I don’t care if bats eat mosquitoes, the bats in china are now contaminated with hundreds of viruses that have turned them into evil critters that bring disease to domestic animals.
Off them like the rabid dogs they are before they start a rabies epidemic too. Find some new bats.
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