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It's not the Gluten! The issues with grains making Americans sick.
Exercise Smarter ^ | Apr 2017 | Tim Rankin

Posted on 03/03/2020 11:11:18 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: ChildOfThe60s
Celiac does indeed exist.

Yeah, it does. It requires an endoscopy to get 100% confirmation. My mother had it, a neighbor's girl has it, both clinically diagnosed.

I have a super lefty SIL who is sure she has it, has to have Gluten Free, etc. Ate so much Kale a few years back, she cannot ever eat it again, it put her in the Hospital. Then I watch her shove absolute garbage down her pie hole and she thinks it's the bread that did it.

If you have Celiac, ANY gluten will set you off quick. Not sorta, not I can have just a little, it's all or nothing. If you can eat half a piece of bread and aren't crapping your pants inside of a half hour, you don't have Celiacs.

21 posted on 03/03/2020 11:46:43 AM PST by Malsua
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To: piasa; CondoleezzaProtege
No one uses Round Up on a field days before harvest. The author is an idiot.

Yeah, brand name Round Up is way too expensive. Today's commercial farmers use non-branded versions of Glyphosate.

It's applied to grain crops days before harvest as an incentive for the plants to put their last bit of energy into increasing the size of the grains - especially soybean and wheat crops. And it's been standard practice for quite a number of years now.

22 posted on 03/03/2020 12:04:56 PM PST by amorphous
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
I watched a youtube video last night named

2 minute keto bread.

Almond flour, whey powder, baking soda, swerve, salt, microwaved. Looked pretty good.
23 posted on 03/03/2020 12:05:05 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Not sure about enrichments. Pure white flour has practically no nutritional value. There was a time when poor children on a diet of biscuits and white gravy were dying from malnutrition. Originally, enriched meant it was sprayed with vitamins, which saved these kids. Perhaps I have been misled here, but that has been my understanding. Pesticides and GMO I will admit are a problem, but that isn’t the same as enriched.


24 posted on 03/03/2020 12:07:36 PM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Mike Bloomberg would know.
He can teach you how to farm pasta.


25 posted on 03/03/2020 12:09:24 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The bread in France tastes better because it is fresher.

If it sits uneaten, it tastes just like what you get for French bread here in the USA.


26 posted on 03/03/2020 12:10:02 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Ping to send to a friend later. :)


27 posted on 03/03/2020 12:14:47 PM PST by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I get the good stuff... Organic hard red wheat. Grind our own flour. Fresh-ground flour makes AMAZING bread.


28 posted on 03/03/2020 12:15:17 PM PST by Rio
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To: GnuThere

Being a farmer is easy.
Being a successful farmer is HARD.


29 posted on 03/03/2020 12:16:00 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: piasa
No one uses Round Up on a field days before harvest. The author is an idiot.

Glyphosate is used to top kill and dessicate grain and soybean crops before harvest. I understand why farmers do it, but am not thrilled by the practice.

30 posted on 03/03/2020 12:20:11 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


31 posted on 03/03/2020 12:24:32 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Also found at https://www.longroom.com/discussion/1817769/its-not-the-gluten-there-are-many-issues-with-grains-that-are-making-us-sick
32 posted on 03/03/2020 12:26:37 PM PST by grayeagle (Pray for Rush)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
I had an acquaintance in charge of the local port. He told me a certain well known, nationwide, bread bakery in our area received 5 tractor trailer loads of processed flour from China weekly.

Our farmers sell our grain to China. The Chinese "process it" and ship it back to our bakeries here in the U.S. is the gist of it. What are the Chinese adding to the process that can't be added by our flour mills here?

Same with many meat products, including hamburger, seafood, etc. Makes me only want to shop from mom & pop bakeries, meat markets, and local farmers.

33 posted on 03/03/2020 12:26:48 PM PST by amorphous
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I’m from a family of naturalists who lived/live on a small ranch-we grew and raised our food, so processed and/or sugary food was not available to me until I came to a large city to go to college. Some people called my family “the health nuts” and thought they were weird because they thought processed food like bleached flour and rice, margarine, etc was like poison...

I ate dorm food and junk/fast food for a few months because it was cheap and everyone else ate it-I lost energy, gained fat for the only time in my life, felt sick a lot and messed up my digestion-on a weekend home, my mom scolded me, loaded my truck with grass fed meat from the freezer, veggies from the garden-and real butter.

I improved in a few days-and I’ve never eaten any garbage again-if it comes in a box, isn’t fresh, is processed or in a can it isn’t in my house-I stick to a paleo diet and it works great for me...


34 posted on 03/03/2020 12:31:28 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys-you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Look for 100% whole grain as the only ingredient. If it says “Enriched” don’t buy it. If the ingredients include folate, iron, thiamine, etc. that also means it has been enriched.

For anyone interested this paper has a decent synopsis of the history of food fortification regulations in the U.S.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK208880/


35 posted on 03/03/2020 12:36:13 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
I got the following as an email this morning, seems tangentially related and may be of interest.

6 Backyard Plants You Can Turn Into Bread

36 posted on 03/03/2020 12:37:55 PM PST by kanawa ((Trump Loves a Great Deal (NorthernSentinel)))
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To: Yaelle

I avoid any produce from any other state or Mexico, if possible-the local produce farms really don’t spray Roundup and other chemicals-not sure about out-of-area produce...

My mom told us that when a package of flour, rice, etc said “enriched” on the label, it meant that all of the natural nutrients had been scraped/bleached out of it to preserve it and make it prettier-so a few were added back by “enrichment”-she never bought any of it.

I never developed a taste for pasta-but like any other Hispanic, I do like an occasional corn tortilla, and in Winter I make bread once in awhile-for barter with neighbors as well as my own use-I like Robin Hood products, and Bob’s Red Mill cornmeal-the grocery store/butcher shop in this rural area has a good selection of local produce and caters to those of us who eat organic...


37 posted on 03/03/2020 12:50:10 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys-you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Truthoverpower

Really? Why not? I mean they slice it you can toasted and put butter on it what else would you call that

Sounds like a “Peanut Butter transfer unit”


38 posted on 03/03/2020 12:52:17 PM PST by spudville
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

WTH is totalresults.net link? Looks fishy to me.


39 posted on 03/03/2020 12:52:47 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.?)
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To: amorphous
Yeah, brand name Round Up is way too expensive. Today's commercial farmers use non-branded versions of Glyphosate. It's applied to grain crops days before harvest as an incentive for the plants to put their last bit of energy into increasing the size of the grains - especially soybean and wheat crops. And it's been standard practice for quite a number of years now.

True, but that doesn't eliminate the possibility that the author may still be an idiot. I doubt that any Glyphosate which may be deposited on the soybean PODS and wheat HUSKS in the last days before harvest is the cause of any significant health risks. Those are discarded in the harvesting process.

Since antibiotic use has been shown to be linked to development of celiac disease, I'd bet that the healthcare industry is a bigger factor in causing health problems than the agriculture industry is.

That said though, I still try to maximize my food intake from my own organic vegetable garden and fruit trees and bushes. I get a lot more nutrition per calorie that way.

40 posted on 03/03/2020 12:58:22 PM PST by Wissa ("Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult." - Michael Corleone)
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