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VANITY: Unhinged Liberals' New Talking Point ("More Deaths from COVID in U.S. than Vietnam or Korean Wars!")
Self ^ | 5/2/20 | Self

Posted on 05/02/2020 8:35:39 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD

From an Unhinged Liberal: More deaths from Coronavirus in the US than many wars - and of course that’s with lots of remediation in place. You do realize that’s more Americans (in just 3 months) than were lost in the Vietnam War (58,200), the First World War (53,402), the Korean War (36,574), the 2003 Iraq conflict (4,431) and the Afghanistan misadventure, the longest armed conflict in American history (2,445).


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KEYWORDS: coronavanity; coronavirus; covid19; deaths; democrats; fastfood; liberalism; liberals; marijuanastores; massageparlors; mentaldisorder; tattooparlors; vanity
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

There were 67,367 drug overdose deaths in 2018. So far, there have only been 66,259 new coronavirus deaths.

Links:

https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/data/statedeaths.html

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en


41 posted on 05/02/2020 9:47:55 AM PDT by familyop (Hell hath no fury like a scorned parrot.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

100 people a day die on the roads in the USA....


42 posted on 05/02/2020 9:49:40 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

And they got the statistics wrong.
W.W.I KIA ———— 116,708
Korean War -——— 54,246
Vietnam -———— 58,219

Spanish Flu dead in 1918 in the U.S. 675,000. While that is an estimate. The true numbers have never been established.
1957-58 Flu in the U.S. killed 500,000
1968 100,000
2009 12,469
2014 80,000

Based upon the figures seen, the deaths from Wuhan Covid-19 are about the same number or less thin the U.S. as compared to the 2014 Flu pandemic.
If anyone is to blame for short sightedness and incompetence it would be our 44th president who failed in handling the 2014 pandemic and the preparations to combat the next pandemic. This also goes for those governors where the Covid-19 has hit hardest.


43 posted on 05/02/2020 9:55:44 AM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: basalt

This was not the one that swept the land, that was later.
Look up 1976 swine flu Fort Dix/McGuire AFB.
Dover AFB, was a footnote to that.


44 posted on 05/02/2020 10:02:00 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

“more Americans (in just 3 months) than were lost in the Vietnam War (58,200), the First World War (53,402)”

That is about the number of deaths EVERY YEAR from Pneumonia in the U.S.A. NOT including the flu or corona. JUST PNEUMONIA!

The flu is ON TOP OF THAT by about another 30,000.

“PERSPECTIVE” people. PERSPECTIVE!


45 posted on 05/02/2020 10:06:00 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Liberals need to put a stop to it then. You can’t catch it you kill yourself first. Plus you help save Gaia.

Die today for a better life tomorrow.


46 posted on 05/02/2020 10:06:14 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ("As government expands, liberty contracts." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: faucetman

Physical death is inevitable! Spiritual death doesn’t exist. We will all live forever. The only question is WHERE will YOU spend eternity? Heaven or Hell?

Repent of your sins, ask Jesus Christ to forgive you, accept Him as your only Lord and Savior, and spend eternity with Him in heaven.

Don’t believe it?

What if you are WRONG?


47 posted on 05/02/2020 10:12:43 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

and most sadly we haven’t killed 2 million communists like we did in Korea & Vietnam...the correct response to this nonsense...


48 posted on 05/02/2020 10:23:29 AM PDT by Geronimo (God Bless America and President Donald J. Trump...)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

All it proves is a virus can kill better than mankind can kill himself.


49 posted on 05/02/2020 10:28:34 AM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: Robert DeLong

Yes, fewer deaths than the flu in 2017-2018.

Both years together, or each year separately?


50 posted on 05/02/2020 10:59:02 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but ABCNNBCBS donates every hour, every night, every day of the year.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Are they counting all the MIA’s?


51 posted on 05/02/2020 11:00:56 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

That’s the season, October through May. It starts in 2017 and extends into 2018 when spring rolls around,. 8>)


52 posted on 05/02/2020 11:33:35 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: silverleaf
Here's more fodder for you to use 8>)
53 posted on 05/02/2020 12:00:44 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

The only thing worse than the horrible, vile, evil media saying anything about Vietnam would be John Kerry mentioning Vietnam. The media uttering the word Vietnam is insulting to me. They never gave a damn about Vietnam before.


54 posted on 05/02/2020 12:15:48 PM PDT by abbastanza
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
"More Deaths from COVID in U.S. than Vietnam or Korean Wars!"


The article at this thread addresses that point specifically:

Woodstock Occurred in the Middle of a Pandemic

55 posted on 05/02/2020 12:39:36 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (re: domestic supply chains: "We cannot outsource our independence!" -- Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

We also went to the moon during a Pandemic.


56 posted on 05/02/2020 12:42:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

well to state the obvious. NY has about half the reported (not confirmed) covid19 deaths in the nation.

my hypothesis is that there is overcounting imo everywhere except where there is competent testing (for example, santa clara co has more accurate numbers because stanford university and hospital is there doing the bulk of the early testing) and where the health authorities (medical examiners office) are competent as well.

santa clara was also urban and hard hit early by the virus according to the news so you could argue that this county would be a good bell weather for what to expect from covid19 everywhere in the us. so i went to santa clara county (with a pop of 2M) to get my basic covid19 numbers for extrapolation about covid19. imo, their count of deaths and other numbers including testing is likely far more trustworthy and accurate than say nyc’s or ny state’s, where apparently chaos ensues in all things medical.

using stanford and santa clara numbers and my own assumptions and static calculations, i get about a rate of about 2% additional deaths per year expected due to covid19.

thus based on population on average per year, ny state should have had about 9000 total, cumulative for 3 mos, additional deaths due to covid19 by my static calcs (maybe you could even add 5000 more to account for the growth in spread of covid19 early on). so you could guess about 14000 worst case covid19 for the whole state in 3-4 mos. but, they have reported 24,368 cumulative deaths for about 3 months.

so basically you could say conservatively one-third to one-half of their numbers represent a massive over/miss count of covid19 deaths, imo.

possible reasons for ny state mis-counting:

1. lack of accurate testing, resulting in assigning co-morbid deaths or completely unrelated deaths to covid19.

2. wrong cause of death.

3. factors facilitating additional spread of covid19 in nyc.

4. intentional reports of wrong cause of death padding the numbers for political reasons.

5. basic incompetence in the whole health reporting system in ny.

6. etc., etc.

additionally we can likely add many other other states to the massive over counting due to these factors, so the 60,000 deaths number is imo grossly overstated and is probably more like half that number, in reality.


57 posted on 05/02/2020 1:01:01 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

all the more reason to sanction China


58 posted on 05/02/2020 1:36:34 PM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Robert DeLong

Understood. Thanks.


59 posted on 05/02/2020 1:43:31 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but ABCNNBCBS donates every hour, every night, every day of the year.)
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To: faucetman

It is my understanding that 3000 babies are aborted every day.

How many have been aborted since the virus outbreak?

When the media idiots bloviate about the deaths from corona virus the hypocrisy is disgusting.


60 posted on 05/02/2020 2:17:02 PM PDT by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semitesnly peaceful to keep the blood off our hands.)
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