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Self Defense-Which would you grab?

Posted on 06/29/2020 8:41:03 AM PDT by uscga77

Say a group of Antifa is coming down your street. You want to pick up a weapon just in case that will keep you safe and deter any crap. Which would you grab? A 12 gauge pump action shotgun or an AR-15? I lean towards the shotgun that we used in Coast Guard boardings of drug smugglers but you can convince me otherwise.


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1 posted on 06/29/2020 8:41:03 AM PDT by uscga77
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An axe and hatchet, maybe a sabre or machete. Less paperwork. More satisfaction.

But an AK with a 75 round drum for backup.

2 posted on 06/29/2020 8:42:53 AM PDT by Mogger
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Shotgun in my hands and an AK over my shoulder.


3 posted on 06/29/2020 8:43:08 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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AR...unless the 12 ga. has a drum magazine.


4 posted on 06/29/2020 8:43:10 AM PDT by dinodino
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Easy, Semi Auto Shotgun. If you can’t get a Semi Auto, then use an over and under. 12 Gauge 4shot.


5 posted on 06/29/2020 8:43:11 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (eeWFight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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An A-10 Warthog would be far more efficient


6 posted on 06/29/2020 8:43:16 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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AR-15, with its 30 round magazine, is going to give you much more firepower. And swapping out mags is a lot easier and faster than reloading a shotgun. There’s a reason our military goes into combat with M-4s and not shotguns.


7 posted on 06/29/2020 8:44:32 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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8 posted on 06/29/2020 8:45:01 AM PDT by z3n
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Whichever is closer to me.


9 posted on 06/29/2020 8:45:29 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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I have a son who is an AF pilot. Maybe that would work out if he could borrow one. ;)


10 posted on 06/29/2020 8:46:15 AM PDT by uscga77 (the truth remains)
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No-brainer. AR-15. .12 Gauge 00 buck is really very heavy. You won’t be able to carry much ammo. 5.56 MM, on the other hand, is super lightweight and you can easily carry hundreds of rounds. Hundreds.

And with an AR you can control a 600 yard radius around you. Shotguns are good only for about 50 yards. 5.56 will also go through armored vests. The list of reasons goes on and on...
11 posted on 06/29/2020 8:46:15 AM PDT by E Pluribus Bellum
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Had a near incident the other night. No thought at all on choice, went for JTS. The rest of the story hall remain untold. No one got shot.


12 posted on 06/29/2020 8:46:41 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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The rifle...no brainer


13 posted on 06/29/2020 8:46:55 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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My preference would be several lines of Claymores. If they get though that, a flame thrower.

Back in the real world, a shotgun catches a person’s attention very quickly but a AR holds more rounds and can reload faster for a normal person. I think either weapon would do the job. Most of the protesters would run after a few .22 cals were shot at them. They are only brave when the victims don’t resist.


14 posted on 06/29/2020 8:47:54 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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Deterrence? If you're looking to just brandish weapons, I guess the old nasty black gun would work. If you're using a pump shotgun, I'd work on your speed-loading skills first.

More sensibly would be to work out positions where you'd have cover and handy ammo stockpiles. Work out fields of fire with neighbors, rather than putting weapons out where the mob could overwhelm someone and take it to use on your family.

During the LA riots, we didn't go stand at ground level outside the store. Elevated positions or positions of cover from within the store where the choices made.

15 posted on 06/29/2020 8:48:00 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Thompson with a 50 round drum. More lead (heavier round) and more lead (bigger load) Somewhat offset by a higher rate of fire.

But let’s face it. Best bet would be a completely legal muzzle loading black powder cannon loaded with scrap metal.


16 posted on 06/29/2020 8:49:16 AM PDT by PAR35
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Shotgun with 00Buck is pretty intimidating and/or a AK. The AK puts a lot more heavy lead down range than an AR when you’re talking about a crowd.


17 posted on 06/29/2020 8:49:47 AM PDT by Dave911
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Comedian Bill Burr says get a 22. Trust me, it’s worth the click - especially if you can use a laugh. (3 minute video)

https://youtu.be/FaLTWW_yEG4


18 posted on 06/29/2020 8:50:13 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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AK w/75 rd drum and my Saiga 12 w/10 rd mags of 00.


19 posted on 06/29/2020 8:51:54 AM PDT by datura
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Let's look at what this couple chose in St. Louis:

what to bring to a riot

20 posted on 06/29/2020 8:52:52 AM PDT by vg0va3
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