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Stunning Cave Discovery Just Changed The Timeline of Human Presence in North America
Science Alert ^ | 23 JULY 2020 | MARLOWE HOOD

Posted on 07/23/2020 2:46:21 PM PDT by Candor7

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Looks like the modern history of '1st nations" in the Americas must change. They were actually 2nd Nations. People were already here when the clovis based immigrants arrived.
1 posted on 07/23/2020 2:46:21 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: Candor7

Long been proof, it’s just that the lamestream archaeologist, etc., etc. are stuck on stupid and sticking to their preferred lamestream academic BS.


2 posted on 07/23/2020 2:51:54 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Candor7

I guess the key to achieving “indigenous” status is to drive out or slaughter all those that came before you, and then to erase the record of their existence. In pre-literate societies, that last step is unnecessary.


3 posted on 07/23/2020 2:52:00 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


4 posted on 07/23/2020 2:52:40 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Candor7

i LOVE seeing the ‘Clovis first’ defenders getting their final death blow... having run up against these dinosaurs in years passed, it’s great to see an end to their charade.


5 posted on 07/23/2020 2:53:12 PM PDT by Levy78
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To: SunkenCiv

Here is another article about the pre - clovis cave in Mexico. it has photos of the tools involved.


6 posted on 07/23/2020 2:54:03 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Well there go those reparations.

Peach


7 posted on 07/23/2020 2:56:13 PM PDT by CarolinaPeach
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To: Candor7

The glaciers and their aftermath washed away relics from early America. People have been her a long, long time.


8 posted on 07/23/2020 2:56:32 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Candor7

I go out to caves and bury shoehorns and those little drink umbrellas.

Let’s see those archeologists explain those.


9 posted on 07/23/2020 2:57:16 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: Candor7

Try 130,000 years ago: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2129042-first-americans-may-have-been-neanderthals-130000-years-ago/


10 posted on 07/23/2020 2:58:53 PM PDT by earglasses (I was blind, and now I hear...)
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To: Candor7

More proof that Atlantis may have been in North America and that it was wiped out by comet impacts 12,900 years ago during the Younger Dryas.


11 posted on 07/23/2020 3:02:28 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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Add 15K more years, and they still couldn’t develop a rifle. A sailing ship. Or anything useful that compares to inventions and discoveries that blossomed from Christian minds.

It seems as iif there is a Divine creator who gives wisdom to people who assemble their minds to worship Him.


12 posted on 07/23/2020 3:04:57 PM PDT by Salvavida
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Once a professional academic has published anything, which they must do if they’re to get tenure (what the Chinese call an “Iron Rice Bowl”), they will defend that ground like an angry wolverine. It’s what creates a 20 to 50 year lag in Archaeology catching up to the latest finds and data. The “experts in their field” literally have to die off. Egyptology is probably the best example. And of course, the affliction is rampant in nearly every branch of science.


13 posted on 07/23/2020 3:11:02 PM PDT by katana
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When Europeans arrived in the America's in 1492... Indigenous people were using stone aged tools. So how does one determine the age of a stone aged tool?

'The Stone Age lasted roughly 3.4 million years, from 30,000 BC to about 3,000 BC, and ended with the advent of metalworking.

The above GOOGLE answer applies to Europe. It doesn't apply to North America because the stone age in North America ended in 1492. Until then it was all stone aged material. The southern indigenous people (and some North American indigenous people) worked with gold and copper... Pure metals that can be heated and melted into forms, but other than that, no metallurgy existed.

So how do you determine the age of a stone aged tool in North America? My assertion is that you cannot determine the age of stone aged materials in North and South America.

Am I wrong?

14 posted on 07/23/2020 3:11:50 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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"Artefacts"......

Lost me right there....

15 posted on 07/23/2020 3:14:08 PM PDT by Osage Orange (qcsi)
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To: cranked

They found the home videos of Fred and Barney but are keeping them under wraps... : )


16 posted on 07/23/2020 3:14:25 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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To: Salvavida

Neither sails nor firearms were invented by Christians.


17 posted on 07/23/2020 3:30:57 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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So how do you determine the age of a stone aged tool in North America?
There are various methods including luminescence dating; dating changing to the surface of the stone tool to determine when it was last exposed to sunlight or how long it was buried in the sediment in which it was discovered. There are other methods.
18 posted on 07/23/2020 3:32:11 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Candor7

They lasted 20,000 years. The US may collapse before 500 years.

The difference? There were no communists 20,000 years ago. And no public schools to indoctrinate kiddos into the wonders of the totalitarian state.


19 posted on 07/23/2020 3:34:29 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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“So if humans were here DURING the Last Glacial Maximum, that’s because they had already arrived BEFORE it,” Ardelean noted in an email.

One might wonder if perhaps man’s history goes far, far back. Maybe we were even technologically advanced tens of thousands of years ago. I read awhile back that a glacial period would basically grind up and extinguish any evidence of an earlier technological period. Perhaps every 40,000 years or so, as an ice age descends, mankind is reduced back to stone-age living.


20 posted on 07/23/2020 3:47:39 PM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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