What Needs to be Done to Retore Our Voting to Integrity

Dec 18,2020 | Tallyho

[D Rider]

That why I say, “public hangings.”

[Political Junkie Too]

In person voting on one single day with a valid ID checked by independent groups.

And purple fingers.

If it's true that 80 million people voted for Biden, I want to see 150 million purple fingers when I walk out onto the streets.

I want to see these people who voted. 150 million votes should be nearly every other person in a nation of 330 million people.

Let's see the fingers. Let's see the people attached to those fingers.

Then I'll believe the numbers.

-PJ

[Amendment10]

Patriots are reminded that the delegates to the Constitutional Convention (Con-Con) had given ordinary citizens the power to vote only for members of the House, not senators or POTUS.

On of the main reasons for citizens having only the power to vote for representatives is that the delegates had given power to originate bills for appropriating taxes uniquely to the House (1.7.1).

In other words, it was up to citizens to "impeach and remove" tax-crazy Democrats out of office.

Also, the corrupt federal government has long ignored that one of the few main powers that the states have expressly constitutionally given the feds to dictate an aspect of domestic policy is to run the US Mail Service (1.8.7).

• "Article I, Section 8, Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;"

• "10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

• ”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had clarified that the Founding States had trusted the states, not the feds, with the care of the people.

”[…] the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)

In other words, most federal domestic policy is now based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated state revenues, such revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So why are patriots now being oppressed under the boots of an unconstitutionally big federal government?

Consider that the Con-Con delegates had given the power to vote for senators uniquely to the state legislatures. This is because the delegates had intended for the Senate to kill House bills which stole state powers and uniquely associated state revenues.

The problem with the Senate now is this. The anti-constitutional republic Progressive Movement had spooked low-information voters into twisting the arms of state legislatures to ratify the ill-conceived 17th Amendment. State legislatures caved and ratified that amendment, foolishly giving up the voices of the state legislatures in Congress.

Now, corrupt senators who evidently don't understand or respect the federal government's constitutionally limited powers any better than the voters do, promise voters everything under the sun to get themselves elected.

And as a consequence of relying on the feds, instead of their respective states, to establish the "government" social spending services that the citizens of a given state want, voters have unthinking abused their 17A powers by doing the following.

When misguided citizens vote for senators they unthinkingly elect crooks who ignore the fed's constitutionally limited powers, crooks who only ignore 10th Amendment-protected state sovereignty, but also bypass the Constitution's Article V process for petitioning the states for new federal government powers when they help the House to pass unconstitutional bills.

The consequence of the feds ignoring the Constitution is that it is now impossible to reverse-engineer the federal government's unconstitutional powers to Congress's Section 8-limited powers.

Again we are in a situation where constitutionally low-information voters have unthinkingly expanded the unconstitutionally big federal government powers by abusing their 17A powers to elect corrupt senators.

Regarding restoring voting integrity, patriots need to clue their state legislatures that the corrupt feds are stealing state revenues and to work with PDJT to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes.

And to make such changes permanent, patriots need to further support PDJT in leading the states to repeal the 17th Amendment.

The 16th Amendment can disappear too.

[zeestephen]

Re: "I propose that all blue voting areas in States shall be run by Republicans..."

Yeah, like the way the Republican Governor and Republican Secretary of State run the elections in Georgia?

[PallMal]

I propose that all blue voting areas in States shall be run by Republicans with Democrats overlooking the vote count.. Democrats can run the Red Zones with Republicans overlooking vote count..

Sort of like in boxing, where the opposing fighter's team goes in the locker room of the opponent to observe the wrapping of the hands of the fighter.

[KevinB]

Why would anybody expect criminals who have obtained their power through cheating to approve rules that would restrict their ability to cheat?

[Swiffer_Ralf]

Agreed

I see a great deal of suggestions good and bad though for all the good or bad intent I see by my own perception the elephant in the room is now a rotting carcass and has been for a very very long time.

There is Zero way to promote, present or resolve the situation that our elected and unelected representatives are going to give up their power and money.

Nothing short of the removal and banning of public /civil servant unions, the dismantling of pay to play lobbyists, and the removal or MSM 230 protection will start to get us back to being a clean slate to restart our Republic.

And that means we either clean house, or line up for the cattle cars because history shows us as does current reality that is exactly where we are at now.

Respects.

[Does so]

“have a CPA firm count the votes”. While that’s good,
4th-graders would be more trustworthy than any Democrat in counting votes.

[cherry]

the rules sure....but you do realize that somebody fixed those computers to change votes....more than one somebody....it was coordinated fraud....

rats are not going to suddenly grow a conscience....this is their game....

we don't stop it now, its never ever going away..

[caww]

.....”There is no recovery from this if it stands”.....

Exactly.

[cherry]

and for another thing ....STOP TAKING THE HIGH ROAD.....being civil and law abiding and nice is why we are in this totalitarian nightmare....

STOP PLAYING NICE.....

[caww]

I disagree because the Demorats and swamp are really at their weakest right now because 'they know' very few believe this was a fair election, rather that it was a stolen fraudulent election against the majority of Americans..... Everybody knows this regardless of what they say publicly.....which makes us the strongest we'll ever be Right Now.

I don't have the answers on what or how this can be done done but I do know this is the time we have to act as united Americans and take back what is rightfully ours...if this stands there will never be another opportunity.

[caww]

.....”It’s no longer about the integrity of elections. It’s about the integrity of the people who did this”.....

Well it’s actually about us and what we’re going to do now we know the courts and those who could change this tide.....won’t. They sure aren’t going to do any changes to the election process that favors the peoples will either. And they’ve already trampled on our laws and Constitution.

So the question is ‘how’ do we take back what they’ve stolen?

[caww]

It makes no difference at all who is to blame.....it’s what are we going to do..what can we do to take back what they’ve stolen.

[caww]

That will never happen except for the little fall guys they throw under their bus as we’ve seen in the past. They like feeding just enough to the public to say they acted.

[caww]

.....”Restore judicial integrity”....

I don’t think any restoration of the Judicial is going to change anything as it’s so corrupt...as are those who appoint them.

Getting rid of both parties would be even more helpful....

[caww]

.....” How about a voter id card like every other civilized non-banana republic in the world”......

Well just a few article headings if you enter seized ID’s into google:

Over 19 thousand Fraudulent IDs Seized by CBP Officers in Chicago ...

CBP Officers in Louisville Seize Hundreds of Counterfeit IDs

Shipments of nearly 20,000 fake driver’s licenses seized

CBP seizes thousands of fake IDs headed from China to NY

[caww]

That's like asking Congress for Term Limits. Congress only passes what will benefit their gains.

[caww]

....”STOP PLAYING NICE”...

Ok...what would you suggest we do to take back the peoples government from all these crooks?

[stockpirate]

Arrest all those who participated in the fraud, try them, then hang them on national TV, even if it’s 20,000, hang them all.