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GM is betting its electrified future on a revolutionary new battery system
Yahoo finance ^ | 4-6-21 | Andrew Tarantola

Posted on 04/06/2021 3:15:17 PM PDT by pluvmantelo

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To: crosdaddy

Sweet. You have a link!


41 posted on 04/06/2021 4:28:35 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Biden's favorite word: What?)
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To: pluvmantelo

I predict an avalanche of charging cable thefts. That’s a whole lotta copper in each of them - or are they using al-u-min-e-um?


42 posted on 04/06/2021 4:28:38 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity ("...for the sake of His name." Psalm 23:3)
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To: pluvmantelo

They had better find a good source for rare earth minerals that is not China. If they do ramp up production in the US, then the “zero emissions” will be shot to hell in the mining, recovery, processing of the minerals by a magnitude exceeding the minimal emissions savings.


43 posted on 04/06/2021 4:31:16 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Corrupt Slow Joe Biden is the Bolshevik sock puppet.)
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To: meatloaf
GM meet wall. Wall meet GM. The grid won’t support GM’s ambitions

The article answers all of my basic battery concerns, assuming its true and not smoke: Power density, life, cost, recharge, range.

I don't see any feasibility however without lots more nuclear power, which could be a benefit, since big auto could start demanding more nuclear power if they want to survive.

Your concern about the "grid", raises another question.

They mentioned plans for a hundred mile charge in 10 minutes, so instead I see every home equipped for a nightly 5pm re-charge. Could a grid handle that, on top of heat of the day air conditioning ? Doubtful.

44 posted on 04/06/2021 4:34:20 PM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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To: pluvmantelo

“...they’ll be among the first models in GM’s new electrified lineup..”

What’s plan B when nobody buys this shit?


45 posted on 04/06/2021 4:37:56 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Russia, the Congo, and Russia were mentioned as the main sources for Cobalt, but it’s expensive, and politically unreliable so they may be using aluminum as one component with cobalt and other elements.


46 posted on 04/06/2021 4:38:11 PM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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To: pluvmantelo

“...When the Hummer EV SUT (sport utility truck) ...”

SUT...Sport Utility Tyco.


47 posted on 04/06/2021 4:40:03 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: 100%FEDUP
"How much fossil feul is used to mine those components?"

The bigger question is how much water is needed. According to https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-environmental-impact-of-lithium-batteries, (sorry forgot how to post an active link - copy and paste), 500,000 gallons of water is required per metric ton (about 2205 pounds):

"The lithium extraction process uses a lot of water—approximately 500,000 gallons per metric ton of lithium. To extract lithium, miners drill a hole in salt flats and pump salty, mineral-rich brine to the surface. After several months the water evaporates, leaving a mixture of manganese, potassium, borax and lithium salts which is then filtered and placed into another evaporation pool. After between 12 and 18 months of this process, the mixture is filtered sufficiently that lithium carbonate can be extracted."

Then consider the land required for evaporation ponds for each half million gallons of water per ton of lithium. Tremendous waste of resources IMO.

48 posted on 04/06/2021 4:41:56 PM PDT by Mr.FixIt (Ethanol: Growing in four months what the U.S.A. burns in one day)
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To: pluvmantelo

What energy creates the electric that charges the cars?


49 posted on 04/06/2021 4:45:54 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: toddausauras

“ When will my fuel-run car be criminalized?”

About when my beloved 1966 toyota landcruiser ultimate desert crawler with the chevy 350 V8 Gets turrets installed on the roll bar


50 posted on 04/06/2021 4:47:15 PM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: heavy metal

GM will get another bail out for supporting this government insanity when it fails. Bank on it.


51 posted on 04/06/2021 4:55:43 PM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media.)
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To: pluvmantelo
Larz Anderson museum in Brookline, MA is a time capsule of a wealthy family's frequent automobile purchases.

There are two EV's there, a 1905 Electromobile and a 1908 Bailey Electric. When equipped with Edison's improved battery, the Bailey Electric could do 100+ miles per charge, but the standard battery was roughly half that.

A great reference for automobiles that came and went quickly is earlyamericanautomobiles.com

52 posted on 04/06/2021 4:56:35 PM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: pluvmantelo

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53 posted on 04/06/2021 5:08:33 PM PDT by sauropod (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Wuli

I agree with all of your points.


54 posted on 04/06/2021 5:09:00 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (Trump don't work cos the vandals took the Handel)
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

Thanks. Must of been a heavy son of a gun.


55 posted on 04/06/2021 5:15:15 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (Trump don't work cos the vandals took the Handel)
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To: Bonemaker

Bankruptcy part duex.


56 posted on 04/06/2021 5:18:56 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said the story was false!)
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To: Mariner

I believe it. Until we harness the alternatives we do not have any.


57 posted on 04/06/2021 5:21:05 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No audit. No peace.)
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To: cableguymn

😀


58 posted on 04/06/2021 5:22:45 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Mouton
Oh you are so woke gorgeous I don't know if I can take it!


59 posted on 04/06/2021 5:29:29 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: DugwayDuke
I really don’t want to wait for an hour or two to recharge.

Do you really think what you want or don't want matters?

60 posted on 04/06/2021 5:49:35 PM PDT by itsahoot (The election was stolen and there isn't a dang thang you can do about it. )
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