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Vaccine makers destroy COVID vaccine safety studies
American Conservative Movemwnt ^ | April 20, 2021 | Dr Joseph Mercola

Posted on 04/21/2021 8:29:12 AM PDT by SecAmndmt

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To: DugwayDuke
You seem to believe that there are same thing. A precedes B so A has to have caused B. That’s your logic. Rooster crows and the sun rises. Vaccinated and die. Exactly logically equivalent.

Nope. A rooster crowing cannot possibly effect the sun rising. Follow the science on that one.

A substance injected into a human life form CAN and does effect that human body.

Stop making ridiculous false analogies to support your weak argument. We smarts won't fall for that banana in the tail pipe. Save it for your less bright, sheepy, vaxxer buddies. They'll buy anything.


41 posted on 04/21/2021 11:44:52 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

bagster wrote: “And its even less probable that it wasn’t. Let your common sense and logic kick in.”

Your logic has a crowing rooster causing the sun to rise.


42 posted on 04/21/2021 11:45:48 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: SecAmndmt

Longterm COVID-19 vaccine studies? Do they mean the 3-5-10-15 year studies?...D’oh! of course not...


43 posted on 04/21/2021 11:48:48 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: DugwayDuke
I get the feeling you would believe anything critical of the vaccine.

I get the feeling you WOULDN'T believe anything critical of the gene therapy. I further get the feeling that you will believe ANYTHING Fauci says.

You cited tis from the article:

Makers of COVID-19 vaccines are now destroying long-term safety studies by unblinding their trials and giving the control groups the active vaccine, claiming it is “unethical” to withhold an effective vaccine -In so doing, they make it virtually impossible to assess any long-term safety and effectiveness, and the true benefit versus cost

Do you not understand the bolded part? Nobody's arguing about your red herring 'saline solutions'. In fact, the article states that they are NOT giving placebos (saline solutions) for the stated reasons.

Seriously, dude. Pay attention.


44 posted on 04/21/2021 11:51:28 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: DugwayDuke
No, your logic fails. If it were as obvious as you maintain, almost every doctor in the world would be up in arms at this.

Would they? And you know this how?

Actually, many are. But your 'medical system' is shutting them down.

All of whom are making videos instead of publishing in respected peer reviewed medical journals. They are the crime against humanity.

And that makes the truth any less true? Why?

Like 'climate science', the honest truth tellers are shut out of the system. 'Well respected medical journals' cannot be legitimate if opposing research is denied access.

You should know this simple thing, but you don't seem to.

Why?


45 posted on 04/21/2021 11:56:41 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: DugwayDuke
Your logic has a crowing rooster causing the sun to rise.

Nope. Only in your twisted mind.

I know the difference between something with exactly zero 'cause and effect' and something that does have it.

Its time to abandon your kooky 'rooster' conspiracy theory.


46 posted on 04/21/2021 11:59:33 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: DugwayDuke

“So, it’s all a conspiracy involving hundreds of thousands of health care professionals? Almost every doctor in the developed world would have had to participate in that conspiracy. Do you know how absurd that sounds?”

Most conventional medical professionals have a religious devotion to vaccination and a religious aversion to nutrition and natural supplements. You and your fellow FR medical nutcases label it a conspiracy in order to deflect responsibility for your participation in the scam and body count. You can keep labeling it a conspiracy, but that is on you.

I’ve met few conventional MDs who were either not ignorant or not incompetent. So vast international association of medical ignoranta and incompetents is the correct label.


47 posted on 04/21/2021 12:13:14 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: bagster

“Like ‘climate science’, the honest truth tellers are shut out of the system. ‘Well respected medical journals’ cannot be legitimate if opposing research is denied access.

You should know this simple thing, but you don’t seem to”

The FR medical nutcases would go along with labeling civilian firearms as a public health menace if instructed to do so.

I was married into a family of conventional MDs: ex-inlaws included specialists, one of whom was world renowned in his field. Given the alleged education level, they were some of the most ignorant and personally unhealthy people I ever met. And they ended up despising me because of my insistence on health and wellness, in addition to refusal to vaccinate my children. They were in denial about the policies promoted by their own medical associations on multiple issues. And they were dishonest.

These were alleged conservative Republicans who were anti-gun, anti-medical freedom, and anti-nutrition. There was no conspiracy...just a terminally flawed worldview. And the children, every single one, ended up as Bernie voters.


48 posted on 04/21/2021 12:24:20 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: bagster

“Do you not understand the bolded part? Nobody’s arguing about your red herring ‘saline solutions’. In fact, the article states that they are NOT giving placebos (saline solutions) for the stated reasons.

Seriously, dude. Pay attention.”

He won’t, because multiple vaccines, maybe all of them, have been test in the exact same way.

Ask a conventional MD why vaccines don’t get double-blind placebo tested, and they will defend their “science” with the identical “unethical not to vax” excuse. I heard it first hand from an ex-inlaw.

I guarantee you that Dugway would defend it as well. It is how many conventional MDs operate.


49 posted on 04/21/2021 12:30:45 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: DugwayDuke

why aren’t doctors, the cdc, and fauxi up in arms about our feral government opening the border and distributing thousands of disease carrying invaders across our country???...


50 posted on 04/21/2021 12:35:24 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: bagster

bagster wrote: “You cited tis from the article: Makers of COVID-19 vaccines are now destroying long-term safety studies by unblinding their trials and giving the control groups the active vaccine, claiming it is “unethical” to withhold an effective vaccine -In so doing, they make it virtually impossible to assess any long-term safety and effectiveness, and the true benefit versus cost. Do you not understand the bolded part? Nobody’s arguing about your red herring ‘saline solutions’. In fact, the article states that they are NOT giving placebos (saline solutions) for the stated reasons.
Seriously, dude. Pay attention.”

Your article stated they were giving the control groups the vaccine. You do understand the control groups were the control groups because they were given a saline solution placebo? This article is absurd because it is complaining that they are not doing long term investigations of a group that only received a saline injection.

You’re the one who should be paying attention.


51 posted on 04/21/2021 1:10:30 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: SecAmndmt

SecAmndmt wrote: “Most conventional medical professionals have a religious devotion to vaccination and a religious aversion to nutrition and natural supplements. You and your fellow FR medical nutcases label it a conspiracy in order to deflect responsibility for your participation in the scam and body count. You can keep labeling it a conspiracy, but that is on you.”

I label it a conspiracy because that is exactly what it Is.

For your theories to be correct, hundreds of thousands of health care professionals would have to lay aside their professional ethics to support something they would know is incorrect.


52 posted on 04/21/2021 1:14:53 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

you’re ignoring my question...

why aren’t doctors, the cdc, and fauxi up in arms about our feral government opening the border and distributing thousands of disease carrying invaders across our country during a “global pandemic”???...

pay attention...


53 posted on 04/21/2021 1:17:15 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: DugwayDuke
Your article stated they were giving the control groups the vaccine. You do understand the control groups were the control groups because they were given a saline solution placebo?

Wow, really? Okay. As a boon to mankind, I'm gonna give you what your English teachered failed to do. I will teach you basic English skills.

Makers of COVID-19 vaccines are now (as opposed to then) destroying long-term safety studies (invalidating long term studies) by unblinding their trials and giving the control groups the active vaccine(not giving saline solutions no more, but the actual fake, untested vax).

I have provided the meanings of the words and phrases conveniently in parentheses. Parentheses are those curved lines before and after the meanings.

Study them studiously, google the hard words, or phone a friend. But for the love of all things holy, understand the meaning of things.

Playing dumb is not attractive. Neither is being dumb for reals. You're like arguing with a can of beans.


54 posted on 04/21/2021 1:57:54 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

bagster wrote: “Playing dumb is not attractive. Neither is being dumb for reals. You’re like arguing with a can of beans.”

You should follow your own advice and stop playing dumb. You’re smart enough to understand that this changes nothing.


55 posted on 04/21/2021 2:38:16 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Seruzawa

I had two friends that participated in the clinical trials. Once it came time for them to eligible for the vaccine thru their workplace they contacted their trial and see if they had received the vaccine or the placebo, and they were told what group they were in. One got the vaccine and one got the placebo.


56 posted on 04/21/2021 2:39:54 PM PDT by Ektelon
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To: DugwayDuke
You should follow your own advice and stop playing dumb.

'Same to you, but more of it' is so third grade.

#LearnToArgue


57 posted on 04/21/2021 2:43:04 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: DugwayDuke

He’s not “playing” dumb.........


58 posted on 04/21/2021 2:44:54 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: DugwayDuke; ransomnote
bagster wrote: “Playing dumb is not attractive. Neither is being dumb for reals. You’re like arguing with a can of beans.”

You should follow your own advice and stop playing dumb. You’re smart enough to understand that this changes nothing.


59 posted on 04/21/2021 2:49:06 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: David Chase
He’s not “playing” dumb.........

Signal or noise, troll?


60 posted on 04/21/2021 2:50:17 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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