URGENT WARNING FROM ISRAEL AS JAB DEATH TOOL RISES!

The Tap News Wire ^ | June 6, 2021 | The Masked Writer

[jpsb]

The jabs will continue until the moral improves...

[rightwingcrazy]

“So 2.9% is really good.”

2.9% just *getting* Covid over *only 3 weeks* is much higher than the rate for the unvaccinated, if CDC & WHO data are to be believed. Furthermore, that number is inconsistent with the assertion that the vaccine is 95% effective. Effective against what? Something is amiss.

[sockmonkey]

An MD here in my town who had his two vaccinations has been transferred from our hospital to one in San Antonio. He has Covid, and is in critical condition.

[sockmonkey]

See my post 43

[Gene Eric]

I believe the saying goes something like this, right?

the beatings will continue until morale improves..."

but I wanted to use the OP's original spelling... ;)

[Gene Eric]

That sucks. Hopefully he pulls through. Is he in the news by any chance?

[Cathi]

Great post. Berenson has repeatedly put up the graphs on nations after they have been doing heavy vaccinating for a few weeks and invariably their case and death rates have a short surge.

I have wondered what is the mechanism of action here. Is the immune system somewhat suppressed after the first shot? It doesn’t seem to affect the numbers after the second one, though.

[sockmonkey]

*** That sucks. Hopefully he pulls through. Is he in the news by any chance? ***

Nope, I looked, but, of course just web md type stuff comes up on a search. His patients who had recent visits are wondering if he exposed any of them.

He is a GP, so saw a broader clientele than a specialist.

[jpsb]

LOL, you are 100% correct, my bad

[wannabegeek]

Oh my goodness? The nonsense continues to find new peaks? Then go ahead take your jabs, will you?

H1N1 number of death was exxegerated like COVID today. How can that many would die of COVID for common cold like illness, and why even need vaccine for it. H1N1 was spread by way of botched up vaccination as test run with activist liberal media people masquerading as journalists continuously the disinformation and scaremongering. I saw at least two lectures said it at Hoover Institute. Whatever they learned from H1N1 scare they're doing better with COVID with the whole world in their hands.

[wannabegeek]

Is the immune system somewhat suppressed after the first shot?

Drs. Robert Fleming, Sherri Tenpenny, Michael Yeadon (ex VP Pfizer), etc., saying experimental synthetic mRNA spike protein and liquidified metalic adjuvants all toxins they're injecting are designed to reprogram the DNA to create viruses (whatever). Harmful virus to the body or helpful? I dunno. My wild guess if biochemicals and adjuvants being injected (instead of conventional weakened virus) may give people to autoimmune disease, so if they'd get flu they die. If they have benign tumor in their bodies, their immune system will kill them, that's autoimmune disease.

[David Chase]

“ “During these 21 days, 1331881 Israeli citizens got the first dose. The table shows that 568 among these died, hence 0.042% and that 39047 among them became a COVID-19 case, hence 2.9 %.”
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They received the FIRST dose of Pfizer which makes them 80% protected.

In order to achieve 95% the second dose within 3 weeks is needed.

So 2.9% ain’t bad.

Also, these are Israeli stats. So remember not to mix in the CDC stats or numbers. American stats differ.

[rightwingcrazy]

2.9% *is* bad. Over what time period were the vaccinated tested for Covid? Maybe a month? 2.9% of them were infected in a month? Even after the first dose of the vaccine?

What percentage of unvaccinated Israelis got Covid over each of the past 18 months? If it were 2.9% per month, nearly every one of them would have gotten it by now, in spite of the draconian lockdowns.

On the other hand, if the vaccine were “95% effective”, the unvaccinated infection rate per month would have to have been much higher, and virtually every Israeli would have gotten Covid a long time ago. Something is amiss with these numbers.

[David Chase]

I don’t know Israeli stats.

I commented on the numbers provided.

I know their lifestyle is different than ours as a great many of the population live in close proximity to each other.

They were in the midst of a huge surge when vaccines began getting administered at a fast pace.

I suggest you skip the vaccine.
Not sure why you’re so upset……..Israel beat Covid. That’s great news!

[rightwingcrazy]

Regarding the vaccine, I don’t have enough information to make a rational choice either way at the moment. I appear to have plenty of time, though, so I’m going to wait and see.

You did quote the numbers provided, but as I said, the numbers don’t make sense to me, in Israel, or anywhere else. Supposedly, only 10% of the US population has gotten Covid in the past year and a half. That averages to “only” about 0.9% infected per month. With no vaccine. Pretty impressive! Certainly better than 2.9%.

The “95% effective” meme that keeps getting repeated might refer to the experience of severe symptoms, rather than the likelihood of infection. Vaccines teach the body to fight off infection after all, not to avoid it completely. But if we limit “Covid cases” to those who experience severe symptoms, the number of cases drops way below 10%, most of those remaining being elderly. People wouldn’t be nearly as panicked, I suppose, and wouldn’t put up with mask mandates or lockdowns.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

There’s no point in arguing with them. As soon as the evidence piles up that they’ve been wrong all along, they either pivot to other completely ridiculous claims or they make up completely insane claims that contradict observable reality.

Have you played a make-believe fighting game with an 8 year old boy before? Where they imagine up the rules as they go and come up with completely arbitrary rules if at any point something doesn’t go their way? Yeah, it’s kind of like that. I’m waiting for them to claim that the vaccine recipients all died within days of getting their shots and have since been replaced with sophisticated robots made to look like them. We’re nearly there.

The comforting thing is to know that reality is still reality even if they refuse to accept it. The vaccines are safe and effective, and they’re ending COVID-19. A million Americans are getting their COVID-19 vaccines every single day. We’ll be done with this soon.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

"Supposedly, only 10% of the US population has gotten Covid in the past year and a half. That averages to “only” about 0.9% infected per month. With no vaccine."

You're not accounting for how diseases actually spread in real life. It's not a simple steady stream of new infections. Transmissions go in waves based upon changes in behavior and cohort mixing. Here's what that's looked like in Israel:

You can't simply take the total average and compare that to a specific period because there are wild swings depending on which specific time period you're looking at. Their peak was mid-January with a 7-day moving average of 8,300 new cases a day. That's a rate of 251,596 cases per month. Right now, they're seeing a moving average of 17 cases per day, or a rate of 516 cases per month. So are we comparing that January peak to the whole pandemic or the flatline of cases and deaths they're currently experiencing?

You also need to narrow that down to specific cohorts. Are we talking about hospital workers who are surrounded by sick people all day? Retail workers who encounter thousands of random strangers each day? Or elderly folks who see maybe 2 or 3 new people a month? Or someone who works from home and gets groceries delivered, seeing almost no one in person during the pandemic? Different groups will have wildly different risk profiles.

To simply smoothe every cohort and every day of the pandemic together and compare that to a more specific cohort in a more specific time period produces totally useless data because the comparison is completely invalid.

Here's an easier way to look at it: before the Pfizer vaccine, Israel's COVID-19 experience was the same as all their neighbors. Cases and deaths went up, they went down, but there was always a baseline maintained through the fluctuations. After vaccinating most of their population, Israel now has no COVID-19. It's gone. All their neighbors? Same baseline as before, same fluctuations as before. Some are seeing cases and deaths hold steady. Some are seeing them rise. But in Israel, COVID-19 is gone. That's pretty simple.

[wannabegeek]

But in Israel, COVID-19 is GONE, that's pretty simple?

Oh yeah it's gone, lol, do you think so?  Where are you coming from?  You're paid for by Bill Gates?

The poster of "Urgent Warning From Israel etc" who lives in Israel think C0VID-19 unnecessary vaccine for bug that not really pandemic, hello?  Supposedly nobody killed by SAR-C0V-2 alone in the whole wideworld.  Now people that didn't die of C0VID-19 will die from the mRNA spike protein biochemical they're injecting as their white blood corpuscles fight off the foreign spike protein in their bodies , some who'd survive will be walking around with nano tech transponder, how about that?

[2aProtectsTheRest]

Haha, post facts and get met with “yOuRe PaId fOr bY bIlL gAtEs?”

Hilarious.

No, people aren’t dying from mRNA or the spike protein. And no they aren’t walking around with a transponder, or alien DNA, or Elvis’ nipples. And birds are not actually just government drones, they’re actually real. And the Earth is an oblong spheroid. It isn’t flat.

[rightwingcrazy]

Thanks for a thoughtful response. I extrapolated using averages only to raise a flag of concern, though, not to attempt an accurate model of the propagation of the disease. 2.9% in about a month just seems too high, for a cohort that is supposedly protected by masks and social distancing protocols and draconian lockdowns, and now vaccines as well.

“Their peak was mid-January with a 7-day moving average of 8,300 new cases a day. That’s a rate of 251,596 cases per month.”

Israel has a population of about 9 million people, so that amounts to a monthly rate at peak-Covid of 2.8%, about the same as that post-vaccinated group. That makes the number seem rather unimpressive. How much higher typically is the rate of Covid cases among the unvaccinated of this “high risk cohort”? How much higher is their Covid death rate, compared to the general population?

“But in Israel, COVID-19 is gone. That’s pretty simple.”

Or, according to your graph, it’s roughly back to what it was in June of 2020, sans vaccine. Is that because the disease hadn’t yet spread much there by that time, or they didn’t test as much back then, or the testing protocols were different, or perhaps there is some seasonality to the disease? Not so simple.