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Doolittle's Raiders
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Posted on 07/13/2021 11:45:17 AM PDT by sodpoodle

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To: sodpoodle

God Bless them all.


21 posted on 07/13/2021 12:44:27 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Claiming Racism, the antidote to personal responsibility)
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To: Dan in Wichita

Guys in those days were shorter. Most military aircraft are designed for people five foot eight or less.


22 posted on 07/13/2021 12:51:06 PM PDT by rellic
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To: Dan in Wichita

“Those men must have been limber to get around in that aircraft. It’s tight!”

I’m a big fan of shows that feature restoration of historical war machines. One show had a pilot who flew a Supermarine Spitfire during the Battle of Britain. When the restoration was complete the old fellow struggled into the cockpit, once in he deadpanned “I seem to remember having a bit more space back in the day.” He then explained it was even a close fit back then.
When the restoration crew asked what he thought of their work he said it looked like a Spitfire, smelt like a Spitfire, but there was something missing. They fired up the rebuilt Merlin V-12 and the old boy smiled “yes, that is a Spitfire.”


23 posted on 07/13/2021 12:52:31 PM PDT by oldvirginian (Shut up and sing, shut up and dribble, shut up and play, shut up and act...just SHUT UP)
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To: PGR88

“A P-51 mustang, the most advanced fighter of its time, cost something like $50,000 per unit.”

After the war they were practically giving them away. Many flying enthusiasts bought them because of their image and cheap price. Same built for the military plane, same Merlin engine just without the guns and bomb and rocket mounts.
A retired jet jockey bought one in the late 90’s. After his first flight in it he said he would never pilot another plane, the P-51 was that good.

Incidentally, the last P-51 Mustang was retired from service in 1984 by the Dominican Air Force.


24 posted on 07/13/2021 1:02:03 PM PDT by oldvirginian (Shut up and sing, shut up and dribble, shut up and play, shut up and act...just SHUT UP)
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To: oldvirginian

Not only did we do all that, but we FED the entire Soviet Army. (THEY loved Spam!!)


25 posted on 07/13/2021 1:13:22 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Eleutheromaniac)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

If it hadn’t been for us Russia would be a province of Germany. We supplied them with...vehicles.
The USA alone supplied the Russians with 501,660 tactical wheeled and tracked vehicles, including 77,972 Jeeps, 151,053 1.5 t trucks and 200,622 2.5 t trucks.

Airplanes
14,833 US aircraft of all types were sent to Russia between 1942 and 1944.
That includes bombers and fighters. The Russians loved the English Hurricane because it was so sturdy.

Add in food, boots, uniforms, medicines, etc.

https://www.ww2-weapons.com/lend-lease-tanks-and-aircrafts/


26 posted on 07/13/2021 1:30:14 PM PDT by oldvirginian (Shut up and sing, shut up and dribble, shut up and play, shut up and act...just SHUT UP)
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To: sodpoodle
Not ignoring the accomplishments nor sacrifices of Doolittle’s Raiders or others.

But what often gets me when I think of was was accomplished in those three years and realize that today it takes us three years to build a new highway off ramp!

27 posted on 07/13/2021 3:39:53 PM PDT by sjmjax
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To: Nateman

—”Did they ever open up the bottle?”

Some events are forever pending on the internet.
A good thing for this one forever remembered.

From 2013:
https://www.militarytimes.com/2013/04/21/doolittle-raiders-gather-for-final-reunion/

From 2019:
Richard Cole, Doolittle Raiders’ last survivor, dies at 103
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/04/09/richard-cole-doolittle-raiders-dies-103/3416542002/


28 posted on 07/13/2021 4:03:33 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: sodpoodle

Anything that includes “We the people” that isn’t the Constitution is hackneyed.


29 posted on 07/13/2021 4:06:46 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: crz

“To this day, when you talk to any former carrier hand, they would have loved to have been there to see that.”

In 1992 they could have seen a recreation:

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/military-vehicle-news/b-25s-carrier-remember-the-doolittle.html

https://m.facebook.com/USNHistory/posts/10154454126533344


30 posted on 07/13/2021 4:17:21 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: crz

31 posted on 07/13/2021 4:18:04 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: crz

32 posted on 07/13/2021 4:19:09 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: crz

33 posted on 07/13/2021 4:21:10 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: sodpoodle

Doolittle was an amazing man. He is the one who pioneered flying by instrument and tested it himself in the cockpit of a biplane that was covered in a hood so he could not see out.


34 posted on 07/13/2021 4:40:55 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Play with knives long enough and you will eventually bleed.)
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35 posted on 07/13/2021 4:43:56 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Play with knives long enough and you will eventually bleed.)
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To: sodpoodle
This has to be from the movie.


36 posted on 07/13/2021 4:45:10 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Play with knives long enough and you will eventually bleed.)
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To: oldvirginian

Martin Caidin, in his book Fork-Tailed Devil: The P-38, tells of brand-new surplus P-38s being sold for $1,250 in Kingman, AZ, January 1946.


37 posted on 07/13/2021 5:40:00 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

They were giving them away! Cheaper than paying maintenance on them and better than letting them rot in a boneyard.
As a kid I loved the look of the P-38, still do. The pilots that flew them loved them. It was a flight of long ranging P-38’s that took out Yamamoto.
Eighth Air Force commander Lt. Gen. James H. “Jimmy” Doolittle would later call the P-38 “the sweetest-flying plane in the sky.”

But the Lightning had problems with the Allison engines and were “too much plane for the average pilot” according to 20th Fighter Group commander Colonel Harold J. Rau.

The P-38 Lightning

https://www.historynet.com/p-38-flunked-europe.htm


38 posted on 07/13/2021 7:27:48 PM PDT by oldvirginian (Shut up and sing, shut up and dribble, shut up and play, shut up and act...just SHUT UP)
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To: gr8eman

That is my understanding. The pilots were ready, Øbowel and PIAPS refused to give the Go signal.


39 posted on 07/13/2021 9:06:20 PM PDT by doorgunner69 ("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
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