Said the raven to the crow.
You got nothing, vaxbot, and you know it. Your feeble thrashing is transparent and desperate. Your Fauci b*tch majik is rendered powerless in he face of facts.
Posted on 08/25/2021 5:07:47 AM PDT by ransomnote
You said that the PCR tests were activated by sequences found in cells other than from Covid. I asked you for an example.
It seems you never expected someone to ask for evidence of your claims. It is amusing to see how that that melted your brain with each subsequent post becoming more frantic.
or general hospital...
The WHO are the worst of the worst. I’d just assume take medical advice from Pete Townsend from the band The Who, before the CCP WHO shills.
Said the raven to the crow.
You got nothing, vaxbot, and you know it. Your feeble thrashing is transparent and desperate. Your Fauci b*tch majik is rendered powerless in he face of facts.
The only way you keep dragging this out is by misquoting me.
ransomnote: None of those sequences are meaningful as they can be found in many, many, many ordinary substances (Coca Cola, Paw Paw fruit etc.) and that’s why many non-human samples test positive for “covid”
It seems you never expected someone to ask for evidence of your claims.
It seems you're incapable of basic logic. I don't need to provide samples to you when there are no isolated Covid virus samples with which to compare any number of valid examples I provide.
The format of the PCR test is known to be incapable of diagnosing disease - why would it matter how many samples I provide to those who assign me busy work? You're just spinning to make it seem like there is 'reasonable doubt' when there isn't.
Logically, you can't lab test for any illness without knowing what you're testing for (isolated reference sample), and using the wrong lab tool that can't indicate disease. 50 samples I provide would not change those facts.
It is amusing to see how that that melted your brain with each subsequent post becoming more frantic.
You mistake my growing disgust at your feeble distraction efforts. I'm suspicious because you simply can't be that incompetent, or can you?
It's like I'm posting to Fauci.....
Anthony? Anthony is that you? *taps on monitor glass*
Time to step back and start over.
First: I appreciate the effort you put into your posts, you are really dedicated. Although we disagree on a lot and sometimes testily, you put the work into it. So I want to have a civil discussion and disagreement.
Second: For everything other than what I disagree, with I agree with you. I have no disagreements with the last half of what you posted at all, just the first half.
Third: From the original post:
"No purified samples of the Covid-19 virus exist. After 19 months, no one has successfully isolated a sample of the Covid virus."
The virus was isolated, replicated, mapped and distributed after "CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel" was published. Here are some articles and medical studies discussing isolating the Covid. Some of them use PCR testing as a research tool, not a diagnostic. Ever since PCR methods were developed they have been used as research tools. The issue is as a medial diagnostic tool, not as a research tool.
Feb 20, 2020: Identification of Coronavirus Isolated from a Patient in Korea with COVID-19.
Mar 12, 2020: McMaster researcher plays key role in isolating COVID-19 virus for use in urgent research
Mar 25, 2020: I study viruses: How our team isolated the new coronavirus to fight the global pandemic
May 18, 2020: Isolation and Full-Length Genome Characterization of SARS-CoV-2 from COVID-19 Cases in Northern Italy
Jun 11, 2020: Detection and Isolation of SARS-CoV-2 in Serum, Urine, and Stool Specimens of COVID-19 Patients from the Republic of Korea
Feb 24, 2021: Phenol-chloroform-based RNA purification for detection of SARS-CoV-2 by RT-qPCR: Comparison with automated systems
Second: You cited Judy Mikovits.
Fifteen years ago she burned her career as a medical researcher due to research fraud on XMRV and chronic fatigue syndrome. TLDR, she made a complete fool of herself and destroyed her career. Using someone who already had no credibility does not help your case. When she says:
"Dr. Judy Mikovits: Correct because SARS Cov2 was never a human virus isolated from human cells and shown to be infectious and transmittable to human cells."
As I linked above, researchers have isolated it from human patients. Doctors are treating patients with it. Patients are dying from it. From post 10, Covid's entire genome has been mapped, Mikovits is denying reality.
When I watched Plandemic, it was clear to me other than her name she was telling only half truths. Looking up what I suspected, I was right. She misrepresented research and oversimplified issues in ways that could only be deliberate. What Christine Blasey Ford is to honest testimony under oath, Mikovits is to ethical medical research.
| Blue Highway wrote: |
The WHO are the worst of the worst. I’d just assume take medical advice from Pete Townsend from the band The Who, before the CCP WHO shills. |
See the bolded text within the transcript below:
Transcript of 2 minute video clip in case Twitter deletes it.
Robert Kennedy Jr: I mean that’s what we’ve been talking about since the beginning is Gates has these incestuous relationships with Anthony Fauci that goes back 20 years where he’s you know, paying Fauci and they have all kinds of really corrupt financial entanglements with each other, they He brought Fauci to his house in 2000, his 189 million dollar house in Seattle, brought him into the den, sat him down and said, “I want to have a partnership with you.”
The way that Fauci explains it, is that Fauci would develop the drugs and then pass them on to the drug companies Merck, Sinofi, Gilead, Johnson & Johnson.
Gates would then guarantee markets in Africa through his control of WHO and those companies that want to get vaccines in Africa but it’s very uncertain, you know, Botswana has a government this year that says ‘yeah want them’ and not next year.
And Gates because he controls WHO, he controls those countries because WHO pays for their health ministries, and supplies all their HIV medications, and they have to do what WHO tells them. So he can require those countries to buy the vaccines from these companies and he then is invested in the companies.
In Merck, he owns, you know, and by the way, Gates has no pretension that he gives a crap about public health. His other investments are in tobacco, in processed foods, in Coca Cola, in Cargill, in Monsanto, in Phillip Morris, Kraft cheese, and all the oil companies, which he owns stakes in virtually of them, so he’s not a guy who cares about climate or public health. He’s a guy who cares about control.
My fan club grows.
Or does it?
But, bro. You just got done citing the CDC. Do you see the problem? You yourself, like CDC, have no credibility. Much less any credibility to question that of an expert without refuting her facts.
And citing CDC is not refuting facts, just so you know.
Show me the lie here, Fauci-lite:
So if that infection RNA was in the blood or in the sputum or in the lung lavage, from a human with Covid-19, what you have to do is take the lung lavage and culture it in a continuously growing human cell line that supports the replication of SARS Cov2.
Well that didn’t happen. They took it out of the lung lavage in people, and I looked at every one of the Biosafety Level 4 labs that purported to have a paper that said they isolated it, and in every single case they put it in the viro monkey kidney cell line.
I don't care if this doctor didn't look both ways when she crossed the street when she was six. She is laying out facts. No amount of squeeing by you will change that.
Your words are wind.
Those two post are referencing another thread, and I will not respond to another thread on this one. Back to this thread:
Which one of my sources were from the CDC? None.
Did Mikovits name the papers she looked at? No, so there is no way of verifying what she said.
Of the research I cited, where did they "put it in the viro monkey kidney cell line"? None.
Time to step back and start over.
First: I appreciate the effort you put into your posts, you are really dedicated. Although we disagree on a lot and sometimes testily, you put the work into it. So I want to have a civil discussion and disagreement.
But you are a shill. I don't get along well with shills.
Second: For everything other than what I disagree, with I agree with you. I have no disagreements with the last half of what you posted at all, just the first half.
Third: From the original post:
"No purified samples of the Covid-19 virus exist. After 19 months, no one has successfully isolated a sample of the Covid virus."
The virus was isolated, replicated, mapped and distributed after "CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel" was published. Here are some articles and medical studies discussing isolating the Covid. Some of them use PCR testing as a research tool, not a diagnostic. Ever since PCR methods were developed they have been used as research tools. The issue is as a medial diagnostic tool, not as a research tool.
Feb 20, 2020: Identification of Coronavirus Isolated from a Patient in Korea with COVID-19.
Mar 12, 2020: McMaster researcher plays key role in isolating COVID-19 virus for use in urgent research
Mar 25, 2020: I study viruses: How our team isolated the new coronavirus to fight the global pandemic
May 18, 2020: Isolation and Full-Length Genome Characterization of SARS-CoV-2 from COVID-19 Cases in Northern Italy
Jun 11, 2020: Detection and Isolation of SARS-CoV-2 in Serum, Urine, and Stool Specimens of COVID-19 Patients from the Republic of Korea
Feb 24, 2021: Phenol-chloroform-based RNA purification for detection of SARS-CoV-2 by RT-qPCR: Comparison with automated systems
You expect me to keep coming back to trash 'science' citations with interest? If I don't I'm chickening out? Let's just look at the first ridiculous example you cite, shall we?
First, they use a FAKE PCR test to identify Covid patients, even though the test cannot detect disease...
"1. Clinical specimens and RNA extraction
Nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swab and sputum samples were collected from symptomatic patients to detect SARS-CoV-2 by real-time reverse transcriptase (RT)-PCR."
Let's have a further look at that 'unbiased' research the NIH is hosting to defend it's treasonous acts, shall we?
"3. Virus isolation
The virus was isolated from nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal samples from putative COVID-19 patients."
Your citation: Feb 20, 2020: Identification of Coronavirus Isolated from a Patient in Korea with COVID-19.
Here's a vocabulary refresher because I know SOMEONE needs it.
Normally, a person identifies a unique set of symptoms of illness, cultivates and isolates a virus specific to that sick person. In La-La Land, we give them a fake PCR test, observe that they have symptoms overlapping with other influenzas, declare 'putative' cases Covid, and isolate that to create...a FAKE PR TEST.
That's pathetic.
So people covering their crimes looked at those coughing with a respiratory illness, declared them "Covid patients" and supposedly isolated "Covid" from that, even though Dr. Robert Malone can trace the origins of the Covid virus back 20+ years and demonstrate it is not a 'novel' virus, is not new by any stretch of the imagination?
THIS is always the 'caliber' of 'science' you people quote. YOu're saying they used a FAKE PCR test to develop a VALID PCR test, and you're saying it with a straight face.
You want civility and then you spread propaganda, and respond to my complaints again with civility to keep me from responding with legitimate anger to lies meant to harm the public. Your calls for 'us' to be civil are calls for me to delegitimize my own outrage at the level of deception you personally are conduting to the detrminent of innocent people world-wide.
Second: You cited Judy Mikovits.
What's that? The sound of a bus backing up?
Fifteen years ago she burned her career as a medical researcher due to research fraud on XMRV and chronic fatigue syndrome. TLDR, she made a complete fool of herself and destroyed her career. Using someone who already had no credibility does not help your case. When she says:
"Dr. Judy Mikovits: Correct because SARS Cov2 was never a human virus isolated from human cells and shown to be infectious and transmittable to human cells."
They impeached President Trump and convicted Flynn - I can't imagine why Mikovitz would have any legal problems when she began to object to Fauci's NIH!
You know, she's not the only expert saying it. Dr. Robert Malone has ample evidence the Covid virus is not what they say it is and has been patented by deeps staters in our government for many, many years.
Try to tackle his unmatched resume for forensic patent Dr. Malone. He isn't the only one either - there is an international community sharing information and launching legal resistance to the medical coup. YOu're going to need a bigger bus.
You supply trash rebuttal and attack the messengers - Mikovits' data matches the work of many others not in the employ of Fauci/Gates/China. White hats have been saying throughout the pandemic that the CDC declines requests from outsider researchers (you have to have deep state connections to claim you have a sample) for isolated samples.
China created the genome released Jan 10th saying, no isolated samples were available, the PCR test was created at a time when 'no isolated samples are available, the 'vaccines' were all created at time when 'no isolated samples were available. ANyone requesting said samples NOW, who is not well connected to Fauci, is always told that 'no isolated samples are available.'
As I linked above, researchers have isolated it from human patients.
False. That lie is kept in place to support the fake pandemic through stupid 'research' validated with fake PCR tests and based on PUTATIVE assumptions.
Did you know that Pfizer dismissed thousands of people demonstrating visible respiratory illness (dismissed putative symptoms) based on the false negatives from a FAKE PCR test? They 'had' to do that to get fake efficacy rates for their 'vaccine' Putative symptoms are convenient in that, like the PCR test, they an be interpreted different ways, at different times, to serve different agendas.
Doctors are treating patients with it.
People are ill. Unless they test postive on a FAKE PCR test, some even get tested. Most of those testing positive for COVID are specifically denied all treatments.
THere are such things as seasonal illnesses. THere are also numerous fake statistics supplemented by the CDC dictate that all persons checking into a hospital (broken ankle, heart attack, gunshot wound) must be tested for Covid (with a 97%+ false positive rate) and if 'scored' positive for Covid, that becomes their primary admitting diagnostic - that is why our "ICU's are overflowing". And if those people die, even within 60 days of a (false) positive FAKE PCR test, they are declared to be Covid fatalities. In May the CDC quietly released data showing that only 5% of "Covid" deaths had a 'covid alone' diagnosis and they other 95% had an average of 4 co-morbidities (hint- they died from other things).
Go in to the hosptial for low flow oxygen for a respiratory illness? The CDC forbids any doctor from treating you - ventilator only. Get a FAKE POSTIVE PCR test, then you can be detained in ICU, family members barred from intervening on your behalf, even though you don't need ICU. Same with broken ankle. All your illnesses R belong to us!
Patients are dying from it.
People denied all treatments for respiratory ailments can die from it. That's always been true. Many have untreated pneumonia. That's why the doctor cited in the OP was put in four-point restraints - he pointed out the man next to him had untreated pneumonia, that's a 'no-no' for the CDC's protocol. The hospital had plans for that pneumonia patient - and treatment was not among them.
Yes, untreated respiratory illnesses combined with the use of damaging levels of ventilators (lung too fragile from infection to handle the pressure) when hi-flow oxygen would work better can results in deaths. The CDC has a 340 page Covid Protocol full of the worst, most damaging 'guidance' that hospitals 'have to follow' or else.
From post 10, Covid's entire genome has been mapped, Mikovits is denying reality.
China supplied the 'entire genome' of Covid without access to an isolated sample of the virus because it said, 'none exist'. China, and all other countries world-wide cannot create an accurate genome map of the virus without an isolated sample, and there are no isolated samples of Covid as it is portrayed to the world
Mikovitz is not the only one you 'need' to attack. There are researchers and virologists world-wide saying the same thing. 'Work' on Dr. Malone for awhile. He has remarkable qualifications with which to support his voluminous evidence the Deep Staters have thousands of patents on "Covid" and have had them for many, many years.
The technology China and others claim they used to 'sequence' the virus without isolated samples can't, by definition, be used to perform that task because from the start, the plandemic was based on the false assertion that Covid is classified as a 'novel' virus.
Almost all of us have significant immunity that helps us deal with coronaviruses. 2003 SARS1 patients were tested with COVID and maintain their immunity because SARS1 is only 22% different from COVID. The way Fauci and CO. started this plandemic was by claiming none of us would have immunity to a novel virus (i.e., claimed Covid was a 'novel' virus and no treatments work etc.).
That's quite obviously not true. Many exposed to Covid in the last 19 months never became ill or just got the sniffles. Immunity was out there - no pandemic emergency need be declared - the COvid 'virus' was never 'novel'.
Oh but Fauci and his Chinese owners SAID Covid was 'novel'. Well then, you can't use gene sequencing, which relies on accessing a library of pre-existing segments of similar viruses, to build a Covid genome that is by definition unlike all others. That's why shills keep screaming that isolated samples exist even though no one ever uses these fantom 'isolates' for anything and they were derived based on one FAKE PCR, and were used to create another FAKE PCR. Or something.
When I watched Plandemic, it was clear to me other than her name she was telling only half truths. Looking up what I suspected, I was right. She misrepresented research and oversimplified issues in ways that could only be deliberate. What Christine Blasey Ford is to honest testimony under oath, Mikovits is to ethical medical research.
Dude, really? It wasn't that long ago.
Your post #70:
The virus was isolated, replicated, mapped and distributed after "CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel" was published.
The 'other thread' was cited in the original post on this thread. You would know that if you read the original post.
#AllKindsaMixedUp
#NoCredibility
Cargill is a giant agribusiness and is privately held.
It’s the largest privately-held company in the US: were it public, it would be between #10 and #20 on the S&P 500 ranked by revenue.
Hey, they’re a Minnesota firm, I used to bicycle past their headquarters.
Well, then, this must be you.
Because changing the official story on whether masks are required or not, allowing a guy who worked with gain-of-function to cajole 30 other scientists to write an article (without evidence!) to trash the Wuhan origin of the virus, inviting Americans to party in Chinatown, refusing the jabs until Biden got elected and then all-but-forcing them, creating and pressing leaky vaccines which were undertested and use a novel-to-humans technology to force the body to produce the most harmful part of the virus, while denying and trashing proven over-the-counter remedies, is NUTS.
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