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Vanity and shameless: A friend is looking for a listing of information to counter the Vaccine march. She is in her thirties and her family is practically disowning her Any websites to recommend?
chickensoup | 08.27.21 | chickensoup

Posted on 08/27/2021 12:10:07 PM PDT by Chickensoup

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To: Chickensoup

The Media, CDC and others have been dishonest and liars about all things COVID since day one.

You are not more likely to get someone sick if you are unvaccinated, in fact, vaccinated “break through” cases actually carry more viral load in their nostrils than unvaccinated folks who are infected.

Break through cases for folks who are vaccinated are NOT RARE... this is another LIE.. it actually appears that vaccinated folks are actually MORE likely to catch the delta variant than unvaccinated people.

What vaccines do appear to do is lessen the likelihood you will have a severe case or die from it if you get it, that’s it.

Of course treatment with Monoclonal antibodies within 10 days of symptoms appearing also appears to have the same net effect. Reducing the need for hospitalization to around 5% and death to around 1%... And that’s among the HIGH RISK population, because you can’t get them unless you are high risk.

I haven’t seen a side by side comparison of the vaccines among just the high risk, but I would bet the rates of vaccinated vs Monoclonal Antibody treatment aren’t much different and honestly would not be surprised if the monoclonal antibody treatment actually exceeds the vaccine in results...

all the other crap about being vaccinated is horse poop. The unvaccinated are not more likely to infect someone than a vaccinated person if they catch it.

If you shun the unvaccinated out of fear they will get you sick, then you should be shunning the vaccinated as well.

This is all about politics not facts.

Her family unfortunately is just getting their information from the propaganda megaphone.


21 posted on 08/27/2021 12:24:01 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Bell Bouy II

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22 posted on 08/27/2021 12:24:05 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Honest Nigerian

Free Republic is an acquired taste. and the brutality recently does not make me want to recommend it to normies.


23 posted on 08/27/2021 12:25:12 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: HamiltonJay

this is important, where are the links to back it u?


24 posted on 08/27/2021 12:26:05 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Chickensoup

Oh, and let’s not even get into the vaccines and their risks both short and long term... because NO ONE CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY HONESTLY ARE... PERIOD.

The spike protein itself is a toxin, it binds to Ace2 Receptors in the body and causes inflammation and damage.

The claim that the mRNA vaccines spike proteins remain in the arm has been show to be a LIE, flat out lie. They flow throughout the body, attaching to Ace2 receptors throughout the body, including the heart and other organs where they can cause permanent damage.

The claim that your body will only produce the spike proteins for 2 weeks and stop, has also been shown, at least in some people to be a complete and absolute lie.

Basically because this entire thing is politics not science it is IMPOSSIBLE to make an informed decision because you are not being told the honest risks or benefits.

Universal vaccination to me is an insane path. 40s to 50s is where vaccination starts to make sense, unless someone is high risk starts to make some sort of sense based on what information we are being given.

Vaccinating healthy young people, let alone children, with no risk factors universally makes absolutely zero sense.


25 posted on 08/27/2021 12:31:39 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: SamuraiScot

Disagree—if family thinks they own you, they are your enemy—forever.

That toothpaste cannot be put back in the tube.


26 posted on 08/27/2021 12:32:27 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Chickensoup

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/
A good location to start.
I’m very busy next few days but will post other links if I can.


27 posted on 08/27/2021 12:33:16 PM PDT by boxlunch (Texas: full blast10th amendment push- extreme nullification methods, or Texit as a last resort….????)
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To: HamiltonJay

>> Vaccinating healthy young people, let alone children, with no risk factors universally makes absolutely zero sense.

It’s predatory.


28 posted on 08/27/2021 12:33:24 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: HamiltonJay

I agree.

Do we have links? studies? anything?

There were a couple of studies out of hopkins but I cannot find them. One out of stanford, ...


29 posted on 08/27/2021 12:33:48 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: boxlunch

thank you


30 posted on 08/27/2021 12:34:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: cgbg

Agreed.


31 posted on 08/27/2021 12:34:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Honest Nigerian

Even with Big Tech censorship, using the internet is isn’t hard to find counter information, but the bigger question would be, will her family listen? If they aren’t even going to listen to the other side due to fear, one-sided news, etc, then searching will be only for her own benefit.


32 posted on 08/27/2021 12:35:35 PM PDT by fatherofthree (Covid Information)
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To: G Larry

I read today that those fully vaccinated are carrying 27 times the viral load of an un vaccinated person.


33 posted on 08/27/2021 12:36:20 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: Chickensoup
I'm in a similar situation but not as extreme.

Forget the websites, your friend just needs to find a new circle of friends. It's unfortunate but there is no reasoning with people who will disown family over something as silly as the "vaccines."

34 posted on 08/27/2021 12:36:38 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Give me a Pigfoot and a Bottle of Beer)
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To: Chickensoup

Go to the CDC and review the Demographic Trends. The case fatality for those less than 50 YO is very, very low — 0.02%

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/


35 posted on 08/27/2021 12:36:51 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Artemis Webb

I’ve added “covid” to the list of things we can’t discuss at Thanksgiving dinner.


36 posted on 08/27/2021 12:37:12 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I do not recognize Biden’s authority.)
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To: Chickensoup

Easy Peasy...

Instruct your friend to tell her family that...

1. She would love to take the vaccine, but she is in the control group and her taking the jab would mess up the data...

2. She is waiting for the vaccine in pill form...

3. She tested positive for something (PCR) so she must have natural immunity. No shot required.

4. She is waiting for an ACTUAL vaccine


37 posted on 08/27/2021 12:37:54 PM PDT by T. Rustin Noone (the angels wanna wear my red shoes......)
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To: T. Rustin Noone

This is crazy—the family is telling her she is their slave—and now she is supposed to them the reasons why slavery is not a great idea.

No way!

They are Pfascists who think they own her.

There is _nothing_ to discuss.

Slavery is _never_ OK.


38 posted on 08/27/2021 12:42:53 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Chickensoup

How about “My body, my choice you assholes”?


39 posted on 08/27/2021 12:44:27 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Stupid man Bad.)
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To: HamiltonJay
My biggest question is:

"Why won't they let you see the Egress?"

Let the "rubes" pay their ten bucks for HCQ and/or Ivermectin. Make sure they have instructions on how not to kill themselves with it.

Since there is NO therapeutic anyway, why not?

Instead, they run stories in every state about how an anecdotal person hurt themselves with fish tank cleaner or horse paste.

The FDA goes on Twittsewer to mock the "horse paste".

It's a nation-wide effort - for drugs you can get over the counter without a prescription in third world countries.

My opinion of American "medicine" has gone from bad to worse.

40 posted on 08/27/2021 12:45:59 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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