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Probable causes for the supply chain mess in California ports
American Thinker ^ | 31 Oct, 2021 | Terry Paulding

Posted on 10/31/2021 4:40:40 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

There is a bigger problem looming which no one is mentioning : with the slowness of the unloading, fewer containers are returning to ports of origin making a future bottleneck ; no containers, no shipping.


41 posted on 10/31/2021 7:29:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
I wonder when some of the ships waiting offshore will start sinking mysteriously.

Ironbottom Sound off Orange County?

42 posted on 10/31/2021 7:39:06 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: snoringbear

I keep saying we need to dig a canal across our southern border. It would be a wall that would pay for itself. Screw the enviromentalists.


43 posted on 10/31/2021 8:07:23 AM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: MtnClimber

AB5 = As Backwards

Indeed another California ruling gone stupid.


44 posted on 10/31/2021 8:29:10 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: PIF

Sort of like when the government starts fining private companies for not moving containers out of the ports when there are already no truck drivers to move the container.


45 posted on 10/31/2021 8:39:41 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: joma89

As understand it, both the waiting ships and truck get fined. Those trucks that can access CA ports are also waiting for loads sometimes days. Its not the lack truck drivers so much as CA regulation banning whole fleets of company and independent trucks. Two other factors : Lack of drivers to haul loads shows up in rail yards; at warehouses where lack of people to unload tucks creates backlogs.

The while JIT system is FUBARed


46 posted on 10/31/2021 9:02:16 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: MtnClimber

Legislatures here in CaCaLAnd could not care less about adverse effects of their laws. They are re-elected on the basis of passing laws and pushing regulations (on the other guys), the effectiveness is never measured.
So long as laws and regs increase state revenue, they are golden.


47 posted on 10/31/2021 9:22:33 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo, WuhanFlu)
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To: Laslo Fripp
Why don’t people flock to UPS and FedEx to send their personal correspondence?

Because it is illegal to do so.

The USPS is a government created (and therefore legal) monopoly for delivering first class mail.

I remember a news story from probably 30 years ago of some guy in New York city who started a business delivering first class mail between highrise offices in downtown undercutting the post office rates. It didn't take USPS long to shut him down and put him out of business.

48 posted on 10/31/2021 9:24:55 AM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: oldasrocks

Lol, the idea has my vote!


49 posted on 10/31/2021 9:34:17 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: PIF
Two other factors : Lack of drivers to haul loads shows up in rail yards; at warehouses where lack of people to unload tucks creates backlogs.
The while JIT system is FUBARed
I will add another factor that I think has also mangled the supply chain, I suspect that at least one major nodes inventory management system has collapsed and they have very limited idea of where in their yard (or warehouse) important things are.
I believe that fixing this problem is actually going to require working back from the consumer end finding and fixing bottlenecks, otherwise fixing one bottleneck only plugs the supply chains at the next one.
50 posted on 10/31/2021 9:37:59 AM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: PIF

Well, let’s think about this; load the 20 wide container ships with product that’s east coast and eastern U.S. bound and send them through the canal, continue to send the 24 wide container ships to LA and Long Beach. Would that work for you?


51 posted on 10/31/2021 9:40:32 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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... load the 20 wide container ships with product that’s east coast and eastern U.S. bound and send them through the canal, continue to send the 24 wide container ships to LA and Long Beach. Would that work for you?

Not me. It just a matter if it would work for the ships and the shipping companies. Ask around what TEU various ports can handle. Ask the companies if its a profitable routing.

Then ask the rail lines to haul the freight to destinations that do not have truckers to haul it ; ask the warehouses that do not have the workers to unload the trucks ; ask FJB to stop paying people to stay home; ask the ghoul Falsi to stop the covid mandates and madness. Let’s go Brandon!


52 posted on 10/31/2021 11:14:11 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Lol, you should be in politics. No solutions just talk.


53 posted on 10/31/2021 11:37:18 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: snoringbear

Lol, you should be in politics. No solutions just talk.


Yeah your solutions are fairy dust. I’m just stating the facts. Troll someone else.


54 posted on 10/31/2021 11:50:16 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ThunderSleeps

You know what would be a hoot? all of the truckers and trucking companies make a formal statement to the effect that “we are not making any runs or deliveries to you idiots until you change your stupid laws. That’s right, no deliveries of any kind. Enjoy your eco-paradise, morons.


55 posted on 10/31/2021 12:32:19 PM PDT by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites)
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To: mewzilla
This situation doesn't benefit China economically - it might in some ways benefit the PLA's plan to weaken the US in advance of seizing Taiwan, however.

But Future President Gavin isn't thinking of China, here. The California legislature is 100% beholden to the Green Left and the public employee unions - these groups get whatever they want no matter what downstream effects occur. A Donald Trump might have gone as far as to Federalize and militarize the ports of LA and Long Beach by now - but the Biden Administration, already living in terror of the inevitable Great Green Walkout - does not dare.

56 posted on 10/31/2021 1:39:57 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: PIF

Naw, no need when I’ve got you, lol 😂


57 posted on 10/31/2021 5:00:59 PM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: snoringbear

The shipment time and costs of going from Shanghai to the east-coast ports are roughly twice what they are for going to the west-coast ports. The costs going via CA have finally gotten high enough that there are some shipments going that way - though the costs to go from CA to TX/FL/NY are only slightly less than going from Shanghai to those east-coast ports, so only new shipments would be rerouted.

Someone posted an illuminating graphic a few weeks ago.


58 posted on 10/31/2021 5:26:58 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Thanks, only new shipments makes sense.


59 posted on 10/31/2021 5:48:04 PM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: MtnClimber

Possible? There is 1 reason and only one reason! All semi’s under their EPA rules cannot be over 3 years old to enter the port authority. This is totally California rigged. Send in the military and take over the ports as national security sites.


60 posted on 10/31/2021 5:49:23 PM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian ( Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less! )
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