‘Fake’ Orthodox father-son rabbis ‘outed’ as Christians

NY Post ^ | November 2, 2021 | Zachary Kussin

[PghBaldy]

I din’t know about the secular laws in place that may apply, but if the fake Jews took money for services, that sounds like fraud.

[MercyFlush]

>>> “Jew” is both a race and a belief. Messianic Jews are often Jews, racially. <<<

Jews are no more a race than Muslims are.

Israel right now has Jewish people of European, Eastern European, African, Asian, and even Native American ancestry. All are Jews and they most definitely are not all of the same race.

[MercyFlush]

I’m seeing accusations absent evidence. If these people are faithful Jews then what’s the problem?

[Phinneous]

Sammy was an avid golfer. Did you know? Know what his handicap was?
He was a black, one-eyed Jew....

But seriously.... not a real conversion. Not a Jew.

[dhs12345]

When I am referring to Messianic Jews, I mean Jews who have come to believe in Yeshua.

It doesn't help that Catholics have been so horrible towards Jews. Every bad experience mentioned has a similar story — Catholics blaming, abusing, etc. I'd tell them Jesus was a Jew. Anyway, it divides us all.

One of the compelling things about the Christian faith is that we all have a relationship with God. And yes, believing in Christ's sacrifice allows us gentiles to have that relationship. God is not a cold uncaring entity.

[cuban leaf]

Jews are no more a race than Muslims are.

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Regarding the jewish faith, yes. Regarding the jewish race, no.

“Jewish” is both a race and a faith. One can be a jew and a Jew. One can be a jew, and not a Jew. One can not be a jew, but be a Jew.

[Phinneous]

Have to ask your local Orthodox rabbi.
Maybe the gentile made one of the sheva brachos.... maybe the kesuba is invalid.... and so to the children’s yichus

Hey Messianics— did you understand what I wrote above? Or care? No... because you’re all Christians (unless you are of a Jewish mother and you are caught up in messianic Christianity... PM me if so.)

[Phinneous]

Christian texts are full of reference to Jesus’ adherence to the Oral Law (later codified as the Talmud.)
That current Judaism is “rabbinic” is your (to be true a large percentage of Christians’) opinion. That Christianity is older is also just your opinion.

[MercyFlush]

Ethnic Jews (Arab or European) are at most a genetic cluster group within the Caucasian race. Much like the Basque, Icelanders, Orkney Islanders, and the Amish.

But they are not a race with distinctive racial characteristics that distinguish them from other Caucasians.

[fidelis]

It doesn't help that Catholics have been so horrible towards Jews. Every bad experience mentioned has a similar story — Catholics blaming, abusing, etc.

Until fairly recently, many Christians of all persuasions were guilty of this, not just Catholics. For example, in predominantly Lutheran Germany which contributed to the Holocaust.

[delchiante]

Wait till Jews find out Passover is the Father’s 6th work day.
And the First Day of Unleavened Bread is His weekly Sabbath..

And then they will have to come to grips with being part of Satan’s Synagogues detailed in the New Covenant book of Revelation.
But they won’t be alone

If they followed Torah, they would know the Truth.
And the Truth would set them free.

But alas, alas.
Woe, woe

[dhs12345]

Yes, horrible. People are evil. They do evil things in God’s name.

[dhs12345]

Here is a good series on Youtube. Jews who have become believers in Yeshua. Yes, they are heretics. And yes, they were banished by family, friends and their rabbi.

https://www.youtube.com/c/ONEFORISRAEL

[cuban leaf]

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-genetics-expert-1.5220113

[Nifster]

But but but their savior is a Jew

[Fiji Hill]

There are several Messianic synagogues out here including Temple Aviv Judea. All of the Messianic Jews that I have met consider themselves to be Jewish and are committed to their faith. And all of those I have met are hard-core conservatives--I met them through political activism.

[PapaBear3625]

They’re just a throwback to 1st century Christianity. The early Christians considered themselves Jewish, too. They were kicked of the synagogues and told they were no longer welcome there. Hasn’t changed in 2000 years. A Jew that accepts Jesus is no longer practicing Judaism, no matter how much they argue otherwise.

But yet, a Jew who is an atheist can be accepted as fully Jewish.

[know.your.why]

Joke:

A Jewish father was concerned about his son who was about a year away from his Bar Mitzvah but was sorely lacking in his knowledge of the Jewish faith. To remedy this, he sent his son to Israel to experience his heritage.

A year later the young man returned home. "Father, thank you for sending me to the land of our Fathers," the son said. "It was wonderful and enlightening, however, I must confess that while in Israel I converted to Christianity."

"Oi vey," replied the father, "what have I done."

So in the tradition of the patriarchs, he went to his best friend and sought his advice and solace.

"It is amazing that you should come to me," stated his friend, "I too sent my son to Israel and he returned a Christian."

So in the tradition of the patriarchs they went to the Rabbi.

"It is amazing that you should come to me," stated the Rabbi, "I too sent my son to Israel and he returned a Christian. What is happening to our sons?" "Brothers, we must take this to the Lord," said the Rabbi.

So they fell to their knees and began to wail and pour out their hearts to the Almighty.

As they prayed the clouds opened and a mighty voice stated, "Amazing that you should come to Me. I, too, sent My Son to Israel . . ."

[jz638]

This is absolutely outrageous

That's nothing.. Just wait until you find out how many rabbis, pastors, priests, etc... are secretly atheists. Whole lot of fakers out there way too far into a bad career choice to back out now.

[patriotfury]

I have many Jewish Messianic friends.

As well, I am not ashamed of being a believer in Christ, and would give my life for Christ.

As well, I pray for and support —

https://www.oneforisrael.org/met-messiah-jewish-testimonies/

https://youtube.com/c/ONEFORISRAEL

https://www.oneforisrael.org/
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I also contribute to this outstanding news and commentary source —

https://www.tv7israelnews.com/
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And absolutley love following a number of young, very informative Messianic believers in Israel today, such as S&R

https://youtube.com/c/SergioRhodainIsrael
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My Uncle who just died this summer from the fake “DIVOC” vax was Evangelical pastor Dr Elie.

My father too, was a highly educated evangelical pastor and professor who died in 2001. This is my family.