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Kyle Rittenhouse Awarded AR-15 for 'Defense of Gun Rights' Following Acquittal
MSN.com ^ | 11/21/21 | Daniel Villarreal

Posted on 11/21/2021 6:18:27 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda

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To: CA Conservative; All
Dominic Black is on trial for making a "straw man" purchase of the rifle - in other words, for buying a gun for someone who otherwise could not legally buy (as opposed to legally carry) the gun.

No, you are incorrect. Kyle is not charged with an federal gun crime, and for good reason.

For a "straw man" purchase to be illegal, the gun has to be substantially transferred to the other person. The Smith & Wesson M15 was never substantially transferred to Kyle.

He is charged with two counts of the State crime in Wisconsin Statutes 948.60 2(a). But the judge dismissed the charge against Kyle (because of the exception in 948.60 3(c). The same exception exists for Dominick.

101 posted on 11/21/2021 1:06:13 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: mykroar

I paid right at $500 for mine, they get you on the ammo though 250 with tax is right about $200. My .38SP is higher than that.


102 posted on 11/21/2021 1:30:47 PM PST by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: Yo-Yo

That would be a pretty petty prosecution, considering the history the feds have with F-and-F, Clinton prosecuting only 8 of the 250K 4473 denials that he bragged about, and the Feebs going out to retrieve Hunter Biden’s pistol from the trash. But, petty seems to be the order of the day.


103 posted on 11/21/2021 1:45:59 PM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: marktwain

I never said Kyle was charged with making a straw man purchase. I said Black was charged.


104 posted on 11/21/2021 3:46:40 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

No longer “accused shooter”. He is vindicated by a jury of his peers self defence victim who saved his own life from an angry mob. End of discussion. The jury has spoken.


105 posted on 11/21/2021 5:44:06 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Hopefully with a 100 round magazine just to send them over the edge.


106 posted on 11/21/2021 5:44:26 PM PST by Forlonge (The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name. Confucius)
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To: CA Conservative
Black is not charged with a straw man purchase. Neither is Kyle.

The State law exception in 948.60 3(c) applies to both of them.

It is not about a straw man purchase.

107 posted on 11/21/2021 6:31:23 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: SES1066
Taxes will be owed on the value of such gifts and he does NOT NEED to become MORE of an IRS target

Wrong. In 2021, the IRS exclusionary gift tax is $15,000.00 per year. I could give you 15k cash, a UTV, used car, nice guns, etc and as long as it wasn't over 15k, you pay no federal taxes. State gift tax? I don't know of any states that have it. You can also give a one time gift of over 5 million per person (like 11mm for married couple) to reduce estate taxs...but after that 11mm+ number you pay taxes on everything over that. BTW...he wont need gifting...he'll need a broker to buy all the fixed income ladders and stocks when he has a half billion dollars.

108 posted on 11/23/2021 5:07:02 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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To: marktwain

As an FFL we pretty much ask “Whose money is buying this firearm?” Whoever raises their hand gets the 4473. They can then gift it or do whatever then. I’ll mail them a bill of sale if they wish or a gift form if they have a gun trust so they can put it on Appendix A of the gun trust.


109 posted on 11/23/2021 5:12:33 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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To: DCBryan1
Wrong. In 2021, the IRS exclusionary gift tax is $15,000.00 per year.

You are CORRECT as per the law! AND I was wrong in that Mr Rittenhouse would have a liability as that rests with the giver. Winnings from a lottery or contest, which this is NOT, would be the recipients responsibility.

That being said, my advice still holds that Mr Rittenhouse should have an advisor about financial matters, especially those pertaining to taxable situations. There is a difference between being legal and being legally SAFE and being legally unbothered! Lois Learner retired from the IRS with full benefits in spite of targeting legal Tea Party organizations applying to the IRS for 501(c)3 status in the Obama years. She broke no law but, by delaying, harassing and denying the charitable deduction status SELECTIVELY, she demonstrated what a LEFTist bureaucrat can do with power.

Mr Rittenhouse has a target on his back, and the multitudinous IRS rules and regulations will make it an easy scenario, with his, and family's, obviously non-standard income, for an audit. It is likely that there could be legal basis but it is so easy to err without more expert guidance.

110 posted on 11/23/2021 7:43:42 AM PST by SES1066 (Ask not what the LEFT can do for you, rather ask what the LEFT is doing to YOU!)
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