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How the Casablanca-class Aircraft Carriers Shook Up World War II
The National Interest ^ | June 26th 2021 | unknown

Posted on 12/09/2021 6:23:25 PM PST by Jacquerie

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1 posted on 12/09/2021 6:23:25 PM PST by Jacquerie
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To: Jacquerie

Great post. I had no past knowledge of this. Wow.


2 posted on 12/09/2021 6:35:09 PM PST by griffin
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To: Jacquerie

Jeep carriers FTW!

Also, Taffy 3 ping!


3 posted on 12/09/2021 6:35:51 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Jacquerie
The US cranked out 50 in about two years. Remarkable production.

On top of the 24 Essex carriers, 9 Independence class light carriers, 19 Commencement Bay class escort carriers and 45 Bogue class escort carriers.

4 posted on 12/09/2021 6:37:19 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Jacquerie

Make ‘em cheap.

Stack ‘em deep.

L


5 posted on 12/09/2021 6:40:04 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: griffin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Johnston_(DD-557)#Engagement_of_Taffy_3


6 posted on 12/09/2021 6:42:53 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Jacquerie

Thanks for posting this. It was a good read for me, as my father served on a Casablanca class aircraft carrier in the Atlantic. According to the article, 50 of these ships were built!

But, wow. ‘The National Interest’ sure is polluted with ads. I guess that’s the price you pay for getting a free article..


7 posted on 12/09/2021 6:46:26 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Jacquerie

My dad was on a destroyer during the battle of Leyte Gulf. Just curious, how did they come up with the name Casablanca for the type of carriers? Was it because of the movie?


8 posted on 12/09/2021 6:51:10 PM PST by willk
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A weapon’s system that you are not prepared to risk losing is not useful in war.

I worry our multi-billion carriers would be like the Yamato or the German battleship fleet in WWI. Confined to port for the whole war because they were not expendable.


9 posted on 12/09/2021 6:55:10 PM PST by Renfrew
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To: willk

Which destroyer?


10 posted on 12/09/2021 6:55:18 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Jacquerie

The carriers also had a 5” main gun, same as the gun on a modern destroyer, but with a shorter barrel than used now.


11 posted on 12/09/2021 6:59:02 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Renfrew

I was thinking along those same lines. In WW II the Germans had great tanks. But they were expensive, and complicated. The US and Soviet tanks were simpler and cheaper, and so were much easier to mass-produce. Allied quantity beat Axis quality.

It seems that the US has gone over to the old German model. Produce only a few high-quality, expensive toys. Better not lose even one of those toys.


12 posted on 12/09/2021 7:04:47 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Renfrew

“A weapon’s system that you are not prepared to risk losing is not useful in war.”

Precisely. I’d rather have 300 “good enough” aircraft carriers than 30 “perfect” ones. In 1944 Detroit was delivering over 1,000 tanks a month. They weren’t perfect. God knows the brave men who crewed them would testify to that. But sheer numbers overwhelmed the enemy.

Same thing with bomber planes, fighter planes, rifles, pistols, grenades, ammunition, food, medical supplies, socks, uniforms, boots, you name it. There’s something to be said for that.

As much as I hate quoting that monster Stalin he was right about this “Quantity has a quality all its own.”

We need to bring some of that mindset back to our military procurement.

L


13 posted on 12/09/2021 7:08:49 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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This is the image for the bad link describing the rolling problem in rough seas for the Casablanca class carriers:

Excerpt:

The U.S. escort carrier USS Anzio (CVE-57) rolling heavily while trying to maintain course and speed during a typhoon east of the Philippines, 17 December 1944. Note the casual attitude of the deck crew. A Grumman TBF (or TBM) Avenger is visible on the left, a Grumman F4F (or FM) Wildcat is tied to far end of the deck.

14 posted on 12/09/2021 7:15:16 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: willk

Told it before but struck up a conversation with an older gentleman sitting by himself at the local bar when i still lived in Minneapolis. Mentioned he served in WWII in the Navy and I asked which ship and almost spit out my drink when he said the Samuel B Roberts.

Dudley Moylan had his ship sunk out from under him and lived to tell the story. Got to spend time with him from time to time at that same bar just visiting. Was an honor to spend time with him.

Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors is a great book on the background of the CVE’s, DE’s and DD’s that won that Battle of Leyte Gulf.


15 posted on 12/09/2021 7:27:22 PM PST by MNlurker
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To: willk

Maybe reading the article would answer that question...


16 posted on 12/09/2021 7:34:27 PM PST by Trinity5
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To: willk

Perhaps you could actually READ the article.

I did the 2.7143 seconds of research for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Battle_of_Casablanca


17 posted on 12/09/2021 7:40:26 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: ealgeone

Now it’s the Chinese that could crank out ships like that and not us...


18 posted on 12/09/2021 7:43:32 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Renfrew

Please stop. You don’t understand modern naval warfare.


19 posted on 12/09/2021 7:46:33 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: willk

The name of the first ship ordered in a class of ships becomes the class name.


20 posted on 12/09/2021 7:48:21 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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