Posted on 03/23/2022 9:33:36 AM PDT by Red Badger
The newer ones have heating and cooling systems for the batteries to help with extreme temperature ranges. The good is it helps with the problem you stated. The bad is it’s more of a drain on the battery (part of the math to think about if you live up north before getting an EV).
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Whats the average price with all those together?
Right then, anyone who pays 70 grand for a set of wheels to get you from point a to point b has their head up their...
Purchase it, drive it off the lot and you lose 10% of the value.
“Will those EV’s still operate below 32 degress?”
I saw a first hand report on that one. The answer is yes. The guy actually stayed for hours in the car and braved the cold to see how it performed. I was surprised.
AND above 90 degrees F and below 32 degrees F? Physics is a beeyotch.
“Do they still have the aluminum body?.........”
No it’s made out of gold! LOL...
See my comment #17. I priced the Lariat Lightning at Ford.com, with ext range battery, and it’s $80k.
Crazy crazy!
The 1908 Bailey Electric, when fit with Edison's improved batteries, could get 100 miles on a charge.
Fast forward to today, 400 miles on a charge. Quite impressive, almost a quantum leap really, when you consider that's roughly 2.6 miles per year gain since the Bailey.
I'm convinced now - I'm gonna buy the Blech-E since it's a Mustang. Gag, cough, spit, vomit, etc..........
The base prices are insane!
Range? Generally, a person would not want to run the battery charge below 20%. Then, when charging, it takes and increasingly long time to get the last 20% of the battery charged up. Not charging at night, you generally would not get the battery above 80% or so. Listed range is 320 miles, effective range is 192 miles. And, that range drops with the aging of the battery.
Contrast to a gasoline powered vehicle. I never operate with less then 1/4 of a tank of gasoline and prefer to fill up at 1/2. Range? Doesn’t matter because I can easily fill up to the top in 3-4 minutes whenever I want.
The fossil fuel version, right? The gas V6 we have in ours of plenty fast enough for me.
I drive two - three times per week 320 miles round trip and the WOODS! No way in hell will I ever trust a battery in the areas I drive.
Yes, the gas version. I used the Ford "Build & Price" and chose the 3.5L V6 which $1,400 over the base 2.7L V6. The 5L V8 was only $800 more than the base 2.7L V6.
Respectfully, I believe that's only half right. If the listed range is 320 miles it assumes starting from 100% charged to 15% left; the stated range doesn't assume draining the full stated capacity of the battery. However, to your point, it does assume the battery being fully charged (as in "slow" charged from home with a level 2 charger) so on a long trip you get 320 miles only on the first charge (the first leg of the trip from home). Presumably you'll use a level 3 fast charger the rest of the way, which means charging to only 80%, which means only 244 miles each charge after that for the rest of the trip. (If 85% worth of charge gets 320 miles, that means 3.76 miles per percent of charge, X 65.)
And, as you correctly pointed out, that doesn't get into having to plan ahead to make sure chargers are where you need them (you might have to recharge after only 160 miles to make sure you have enough charge to carry you to the next charger after that).
“All of them expensive and the more times you charge the less efficient the batteries become over time. Battery technology can only go so far and then there is pollution involved in making the batteries and disposing of them, they cannot be recycled. Then we have the cost of the electricity to charge.”
BS!
Ten year old batteries still have 90% capacity.
They CAN be recycled.
Cost of electricity less than gasoline.
“The newer ones take 40-50 minutes to charge at a DC fast charger from 15% to 80%, giving you another 200 to 250 miles”
Tesla advertising 15 minutes for 200 mile range.
“Will those EV’s still operate below 32 degress?”
Yes.
The important question is where will we get the electricity for all these EV and, of course, how about the charging stations?
This weekend, I drove a 2005 Toyota 950 miles in one day. I averaged 650 miles/day on the other days.
Get back with me when electric vehicles can compete.
“That picture of the Electric Ford F-150 in the snow is laughable”
Why? It will be there until the snow melts and they can tow it to a charging station....
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