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Longest Range Electric Cars, Trucks, And SUVs Available Now
https://insideevs.com ^ | Updated: Mar 23, 2022 at 9:16am ET | By: Andrew Lambrecht

Posted on 03/23/2022 9:33:36 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

How many longest range electric cars and trucks are sold in Alaska and Canada per year?.


61 posted on 03/23/2022 11:26:41 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: GOPJ
"Sounds well thought out"

Thanks. Decisions involving tens of thousands of dollars should always be well planned. Unfortunately, cars are usually bought based on the "chemistry" when you test drive. LOL

62 posted on 03/23/2022 11:26:51 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

What do I do in an emergency situation and the battery is flat?

In my gas car in just jump in and bug out.


63 posted on 03/23/2022 11:27:14 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: Tell It Right
This isn't practical
64 posted on 03/23/2022 11:29:41 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: indthkr
Will those EV's still operate below 32 degress?

My question would be "Do they still operate at minus 20 degrees?", as happens with some regularity up here.

65 posted on 03/23/2022 11:30:40 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: V_TWIN
"What do I do in an emergency situation and the battery is flat?"

Solution: Don't let your battery get flat.

I'm married and my wife and I need two cars between the two of us. So if I get an EV I'll keep a gas car and have the best of both worlds. And I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate the Dims trying to force EV's on us.

I'm just saying EV's are good for some situations. If literally 99% of your driving is around town then an EV might work for you.

66 posted on 03/23/2022 11:48:58 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: V_TWIN

Hoe much does it cost to retrofit your house to be able to charge your EV..?


67 posted on 03/23/2022 11:51:58 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: sima_yi; indthkr

I have owned a Mach e since last July. I can assure you that it operates below 32, and while we didn’t have a 20 degree below zero day where I live we did have some at sub 10 degrees below zero.

My car’s (standard battery) usable daily range went down from 100-120 miles (charging to 90%, keeping it above 20%) to about 80-90 miles per day. But I normally drive about 20-40 miles per day so that’s no problem.

While my car is plugged in I use an app to start it up about 5 minutes or so before I leave. That gets the car nice and warm inside and warms up the battery prior to use. No fumes so I don’t need to open the garage door. Before I drive home I use the app to start the car and it is cozy and ready to go.

EV’s are great commuter cars if you have a charger in your garage at home. They are a good 2nd car and a great 3rd car. Using an EV for short trips will keep my gas vehicles in service longer.


68 posted on 03/23/2022 11:53:25 AM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: Tell It Right

“So if I get an EV I’ll keep a gas car and have the best of both worlds”

So once again dependant on fossil fuel.

Also there’s the cost of battery replacement when not if it will need to be replaced.

Having said all that I’m pulling for as many people as possible to buy EVs......at some point I figure it’ll take the pressure off gasoline use and that should drop the cost gas.


69 posted on 03/23/2022 11:55:49 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: V_TWIN

I’ve got the same view, but don’t think it will happen in my lifetime. Maybe for my kids who are in their 40s.


70 posted on 03/23/2022 11:58:26 AM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: mewzilla

See my post #64

BTW tesla will not sell you a supercharger.....even if they did your home doesn’t have the infrastructure to support it. So if you want to charge your tesla in 30 minutes you have to drive to wherever a supercharger is.....assuming the battery has enough of a charge to get you there.


71 posted on 03/23/2022 11:59:11 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: jerod

Tesla batteries are warrantied to 100k miles, but will do many more.


72 posted on 03/23/2022 12:00:44 PM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: V_TWIN
I agree. If you have regular long commutes, thus it'd take 18 hours to charge it up every night, then an EV is a bad choice.

But if like me you drive ~200 miles per week, are married (thus we need two cars anyway, might as well have one EV and one gas car and have the best of both worlds), own your home, live in the south, have a metal roof, no shade over your roof, and a large portion of your roof facing south (all of which I do), then you might consider putting a solar system onto your roof (like I did almost a year ago) and the next time you replace one of your used cars -- replace it with an EV (what my wife and I are considering doing).

My current solar system will pay for itself on the 10th or 11th year, assuming 3% inflation on power and natural gas rates. I hate having to do it. I wish I could drill my own natural gas and oil, but I can't do those. Nor can I stop the Dims from jacking up our energy prices to control us in the name of paying tithe to Greta Gaia. So I used a HELOC to pay for the solar system and couldn't be happier with the throughput. It literally produced 55% of all the power we consumed last year in our two-story now all-electric house. Gone are the days I grumble about natural gas prices and I grumble only half as much as I used to about power rates. It's given us a hedge against runaway energy costs for our house. I have taken half the literal power out of the hands of bureaucrats and put it into our hands. Solar is not as efficient or dependable as other energy sources. But it has one thing that's very valuable: I control it. Therefore I can tweak it for mine and my family's interests, not in ways that benefit the big gubment control freaks.

I'm thinking of doing the same with runaway gasoline prices by getting an EV. By my estimate, about half the time I charge the EV it'll be with excess solar power (power I wasn't using anyway). That's if I don't upgrade my solar system, which I will if the Dims succeed in forcing most people to drive EV's and, thereby, need to control us with their power prices like they control us with their pump prices.

73 posted on 03/23/2022 12:03:39 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Harpotoo

It doesn’t cost anywhere near $5k to install a charger—more like $1200., and less if you do it yourself.


74 posted on 03/23/2022 12:04:40 PM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: refermech
"Guess Ill just have to wait for a good used one with a new battery.

Unless abused, a battery may be good to 20 years. Experience is also being gained using remanufactured batteries. Technology is constantly improving so today's batteries should perform better than the graph below. Tesla may perform better than some others.


75 posted on 03/23/2022 12:05:49 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

“and then there is pollution involved in making the batteries and disposing of them, they cannot be recycled.”

Tesla recycles 100% of their batteries.


76 posted on 03/23/2022 12:07:32 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: mewzilla

“Hoe much does it cost to retrofit your house to be able to charge your EV..?”

Level 1: $0.00

Level 2: $1,500.00


77 posted on 03/23/2022 12:13:44 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: V_TWIN
"So once again dependent on fossil fuel."

I'm 100% with you. I'm not trying to be "net zero", nor am I wanting to slay an invisible warmageddon or any of that hogwash. Nor do I believe the Current Warm Period is anything to worry about (historically it's probably not as warm as the Medieval Warm Period, Roman Warm Period, or Minoan Warm Period). If the Dims weren't jockeying around with our energy costs I wouldn't consider an EV.

But the Dims be the Dims and they've made no bones about using energy costs to try to control us. So I put a solar system onto my house almost a year ago and couldn't be happier with the throughput and the fact that it provided 55% of all the power we consumed last year. It'll pay for itself at about the 10th year, assuming a 3% inflation in power rates (and all the riders that go into your power bill), and assuming the gradual reduction in my solar system's throughput (batteries are guaranteed to still be operating at 50% in 19 years, panels at 70% in 25 years). It also assumes paying the interest on the HELOC I took out to pay for it.

My wife and I have a hedge against the Dims jacking up our cost of living as we soon move into retirement, at least the energy costs for our home. I'd like to have that same kind of hedge against the Dims jacking up the cost at the pump.

We're free American citizens, hopefully independent minded. You can keep fussing that somebody outta do something, while I keep working to find a real solution for my family. I'm not saying I like it. I can't stand this war on energy. But it is what it is, so I need to do what I can to produce more of our own energy and set us up where we can depend more on our own energy and less on what the Dims grace us with from their thrones.

78 posted on 03/23/2022 12:14:55 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: TexasGator
Tesla recycles 100% of their batteries.

That's impressive. Just the cost of shipping them from junkyards to the recycling plant is significant.

79 posted on 03/23/2022 12:16:06 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: dinodino

And how much does the charger cost?


80 posted on 03/23/2022 12:18:06 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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