Posted on 07/14/2022 4:34:51 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
He is right.
The whole Ukrainian war started because Putin felt that the Resident is weak and will do nothing substantial to stop him.
That war should NEVER happened!
And when it happened, West should go full strength in!
We are still discussing what not to send to Ukraine so we do not get Putin mad?!
The help for Ukraine is trickling down instead pouring in!
It really looks like Resident’s advisors want to keep this war going forever.
Give Ukraine just enough to keep fighting, but not enough to crush Russians decisively!?
“Do you really believe someone other than Putin is driving this war to continue?”
Yes. Soros, Biden’s puppet master whoever, Deep State. Because if energy prices dropped, he would no longer be able to finance the war, and Ukraine could then just wear him down with no chance of resupply for Putin.
“He should cease hostility, pull his forces out and stop this nonsense.”
Yeah. And Jeffrey Dahmer should have stopped eating people, but didn’t until he was caught. He continues the war because he wants to and he can. We can’t control “wants to” but “can” is a cinch.
Take away his capacity by taking away his source of income, oil and natural gas.
But with the a@@holes trying to destroy the energy industry, the price stays high, he keeps selling at obscene profits, and that supports the war in Ukraine, and threatens to embolden China to take Taiwan, which they will do because they think they can, because they see that Russia is winning in Dumbass and that the West is ineffectual. After Dumbass, he’ll keep gunning for the rest of Ukraine and Eastern Europe, and the US and the West will be too busy fighting China in SE Asia. But you’ve got a solution: Walk up to Putin and say “cut that out!” and slap his wrist?
“That war should NEVER happened!”
Had Biden not stolen the election, it would never have happened.
“And when it happened, West should go full strength in!”
Hope you like mushrooms.
Strongly agree on #1,
Strongly disagree on #2!
Actually, this long trickling escalations will get us exactly where you are afraid to go!
It reminds me that all major wars were started by Democratic admins.
It IS still in progress, and the momentum ever since the beginning is NOT in Ukraine's favor. Russia is winning! And you are correct, it is being prolonged by a delusional west at the expense of Ukrainian lives and massive losses on the ground. This could all have been easily avoided -- except for the intense insistence of the west/US for a proxy war. The insistence includes massive amounts of arms, NATO training for 8 years, and billions upon billions of our tax dollars.
Russia would come back, as it has, and then it would have been able to invade its former satellites with impunity but for NATO membership.
The USSR disintegrated in 1991. The aggressive expansion of NATO began in 1999. So, where is your proof that Russia was set to invade the Baltics? They had almost 10 years to do that, It never happened.
In 2007 after numerous countries were added to the so-called DEFENSIVE military organization, " NATO, " Putin issued a warning. It fell on deaf ears. Do you recall what happened in 1961? Russia placed missiles in Cuba right on our border (90 miles away), and we nearly went to WWIII over that threat. Russia was saying the same thing to the west. Get off my butt with your expansionist agenda. The response from the west was deafening.
And then, the US instigated a coup in Ukraine in 2014, and our state department hand-picked their person to run the country. So, is Putin supposed to ignore this aggression/invasion by the US -- on top of the doubling of NATO countries?
Ukraine is being tortured by the West for nefarious purposes. The torture consists of giving it enough weapons to continue to avoid being killed by a rabid bear, but the bear keeps coming because of high energy prices, which the west keeps exacerbating.
You sure got part of that right! The west is torturing Ukariane for their own personal agenda and destroying that country while losing many lives. As for energy prices, you seem to forget one important point. The energy prices have been brought on by economic sanctions that have killed our economy, launched the highest inflation in 40 years and heaped big profits on the country with the oil. Now, that's real smart. What wonderful leaders we have there.
Now you may think this has worked out well for the west, but I sure don't. It is a perfect example of destruction by our own stupidity! This will not end well.
Ask yourself, what does total Russian victory look like? what does total Ukraine/globalist victory look like?
So its more than just a money-grab for Biden his cronies and the Military Industrial Complex - its an existential crisis for the globalist woke elites (the Davos crowd) and for Russia as well.
News flash: The war is essentially over. If you get your head out of the MSM Neocon propaganda, you’d know that. HIMARS now is making no difference in the outcome, and 60 would only cause the Russians to use more heavy weapons to take them out faster. Moreover, sending 60 would make a serious dent in our stock of that weapon.
As for driving down the price of oil, the Russian budget is built on an assumption of $40/bbl oil. Our sanctions have been driving the price of oil and gas up.
“Putin will not end the war so long as he thinks he can win.”
Well duh, why would he end the war if he thinks he can win? The military war is only half of it, the economic war is the other half, and he’s winning bigly in that. The US shot its wad with sanctions thinking that would bring Russia down, only to find out that Russia’s position is much stronger than they anticipated. So now the US is doubling down on stupidity to try and hide their huge mistake.
Russia is the ONLY major country not mired in excessive debt, and they have the natural resources and trade relationships to easily weather any storm. Can’t say the same for the rest of the world which is on the verge of economic collapse. Why do you think we are risking WW3 over this? Trust me NONE of the players give a rat’s @ss about Ukraine, it just a useful pawn providing the excuse to engage Russia militarily. The idiot elites in the US seem to think that we can bleed Russia dry, but it is the Western economies which are being bled dry with unpayable debt.
Let’s see how long Europe remains onboard with poking the bear when their economies enter an economic depression. Over the course of the year ahead you will witness the collapse of the euro along with the resulting collapse of the EU itself. Russia will be in the catbird seat, offering Europe the only way out of this mess by bringing nordstream2 online. The US neocons on the other hand want WW3. Which one of those options do you think Europe will choose?
I would include China there. They have every gain for the US and Russia to escalate to nukes, taking both down, leaving China the worlds only superpower.
Taiwan would probably just surrender to china then.
LOL, have you told Putin, the war is over?
Obviously you need help with the point. Ukraine lost the war long ago...as in it became unwinnable almost from the beginning. If you actually follow the events on the ground, the Russians have been slowly and methodically destroying a largely defenseless UFA. The Biden administration through Zelensky, who fantasizes about his “Million Man March/Army”, is using the men in the UFA as cannon fodder in the belief that fighting to the last Ukrainian will “weaken” Russia. It won’t, any more than the sanctions have worked. Seversk has fallen, and Bakhmut is next. People like you treat this like it’s a sports event. You mindlessly slurp up propaganda and start waiving pom poms for your side. In the meantime, real people are losing their lives for nothing more than the sociopathic narcissism of the Neocons in the Biden administration, the WEF, and NATO.
Thanks armchair general. So a massive delivery of HIMARS, jets, and tanks would not accomplish anything? Surprise, actual military analysts disagree.
Analysts: Ukraine Needs U.S. Aircraft; U.S. Needs to Stop Self-Deterring
The weapons the U.S. and NATO have been providing Ukraine are not enough to reverse Russia’s invasion, and the process of providing F-16s from U.S. stocks should begin as soon as possible, analysts said in an AFA Mitchell Institute online seminar.
Panelists said Ukraine’s best chance for beating back Russia’s advances will come through air-launched standoff missile strikes on Russian rear areas and supply lines, as well as command and control centers and airpower working in concert with Ukrainian ground forces.
Retired Lt. Gen. David A. Deptula, dean of AFA’s Mitchell Institute of Aerospace Studies, said the Russia-Ukraine war has effectively been ongoing since 2014 and will not likely be over quickly, so “there’s time” to provide Ukraine with F-16s and train some of its experienced pilots to fly them.
Members of the panel said that in the meantime, the U.S. could provide MQ-1C Gray Eagles or even MQ-9 Reapers to give Ukraine more air strike capability and persistent watch over the battlefield for target spotting functions and “actionable intelligence,” Deptula said.
Absent fresh airpower, though, panelists said the weapons being supplied to Ukraine—such as artillery—don’t deliver a decisive capability and engage the Russians “at their own game,” he added.
To go on the offensive, the Ukrainians need to strike Russia’s rear areas, Farkas said, and “not just defend but re-seize their territory.” The U.S. should also put pressure on Israel to provide Ukraine with its Iron Dome air defense systems, she said.
https://www.airforcemag.com/ukraine-needs-u-s-aircraft-f-16s-u-s-needs-to-stop-self-deterring/
If someone attacks the United States, I can’t wait to hear folks say we’re
warmongers because we won’t surrender.
It doesn’t matter if Putin thinks he can win. That doesn’t flip who started
the war and who is still the invading force on another nation’s territory.
A defending military effort is NEVER the aggressor force. It is NEVER the
focus of who is extending the war.
As for Taiwan, I’ve never been under the impression we were going to
try to prevent China from invading it.
Even Taiwan’s own officials talk of unifying at some point. Now those may be
rogue political figures, but I don’t hear a lot of pushback when they make
those comments.
That causes me to be less likely to support defending them.
Why should we get involved to prevent what they even see as a natural
progression over time?
Get out of NY City would be my advice. I hear Montana is nice this time of year.
As for Taiwan, if the US does not prevent China from invading it, the more fools you. Peaceably reuniting with China after a few decades of give and take negotiations in the real world would be one thing. But if China invades, you will suddenly find your standard of living greatly diminished, and they will not stop there, either. They’re already occupying Tibet, enslaving and exterminating Uighers, persecuting Christians and Fulon Gong hobbyists. Once they’ve got Taiwan and all its microchip industry, they will not stop there, and you’d have a hard time stopping them, without any microchips. What would be next? Sri Lanka, which just imploded, South Korea, Japan, Australia? It would start with Taiwan.
I could say, “Put your money where your mouth is.”
But Biden & Company are doing that for you. The spending and ensuing graft will be paid by US taxpayers in the form of higher taxes, inflation, higher interest rates, etc.
Putin (corrupt as he is) was very clear about why the expansion of NATO towards the borders of Russia was unacceptable. (Makes one ponder - should Mexico join NATO? That was sarcasm.)
Zelensky is not Ukraine’s savior. Maybe he is Ukraine’s Mussolini.
“Now you may think this has worked out well for the west, but I sure don’t. “
It has worked out well for the deep state, not westerners.
Re: “Mushrooms”
Russia brags about having 6500 nukes:
I ask, how many of those 6500 are strategic ICBMs with MRV capability, and how many are battlefield tactical weapons?
Considering the majority of Russia’s “conventional” war equipment, which Putin has used to invade Ukraine, is absolute junk, I have to wonder how much of Russia’s nuclear deterant is actually operational, having the abilty to even be launched, nevermind successfully reaching the target and actually detonating.
I thing the Russians are full of crap - “all hat and no cattle” - when it comes to their nuclear weapons capabilities.
“If someone attacks the United States, I can’t wait to hear folks say we’re
warmongers because we won’t surrender.”
Those right-wing extremist Wolverines continue to prolong the conflict with their guerilla warfare. Kenyanese mountain gorillas say that they resent the cultural appropriation./s
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