Some Comments on the Military Situation in Ukraine as of September 9, 2022

The Biden boys DIDN’T want Russia to invade Ukraine. The Invasion actually screwed over their plans to quitely steal USAID money and shake down Oligarchs.

Putin started the war. He’s paranoid, delusional and surrounded by Yes Men who told him he’d be a great historical figure and poke Biden’s boys in the eye.

Without Putin, the war never would have happened.

I think the lies are at a height at this point both sides in this latest uke offensive

I think the Ukes no question have gained a bulge east

I think the Russians decided to withdraw for various practical reasons and retreated not regrouped as they claim

I think the Ukes have paid a high price for this victory

I think Russian losses despite the hyperbole from the western has been minimal and it was an organized retreat

I think if Russia planned to annex west of the Oskal they failed

I scout scores of sources mostly the few middle road sources and eastern and third party

I confess i only look at globalist headlines since they are sadly so unreliable

Sad when TASS is more trustworthy than Sunday Times

That’s my thinks

Ritter is a convicted pedophile.

Just saying.

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NATO tried to put a boot on Russia’s neck through the Maidan coup. Maybe you support Joe Biden and the globalist elitists for which he is a figurehead. Most of us here don’t. For all its faults Russia under independent rule is better than Russia enslaved like the rest of us.

EnderWiggin1970 this isn’t directed at you and its pretty long so I don’t expect you to read it. I understand the power of the deepstate and we all need to fight against it, but this war isn’t really a fight for or against the deep state.

The Enslavement the average Russian feels is much worse than we have ever had it.

I still have guns and can post Funny memes about Biden and not go to jail. Does the average Russian under Putin have any guns? ... because I know thy can’t post anti Putin memes and not get a visit from the police.

I don’t support Joe Biden or the Globalists elites, but We (the US) screwed up Ukraine through our CIA and USAID ten years ago.

The average Ukrainian didn’t want that and its average Ukrainians fighting to keep from being second class Russians.

Put yourself is a Ukrainians shoes.

1) Some Obamabots came over in 2012 and gave you Hopium you could have a freer less corrupt society, where you complain to the government without being arrested and thrown in Jail.

2) they believed this, got rid of their previous terrible Putin puppet government, and things started looking up and more western investment was flowing into the country. They got software programmer jobs or management Jobs at the VW factory.

3) Then Putin invades. They asked us for help, because WE convinced them everything will be fine if they turned west and “Putin wasn’t dumb enough to invade”.

If we turn our backs on them, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Muldova, Poland and Finland are next. Putins State TV mouth pieces have said as much.

Our best option now, is to Quagmire the shit out of Putin. China might see this and think “Nope!” too, Kadafi said “Nope!” & gave up his nuke program when he saw how Saddam got crushed.

This isn’t about maintaining the power of Global Elites, They lost ALL power over Ukraine when Putin attacked. Now the people of Ukraine are back up for grabs.

Do you want them to be gun toting Mega Chad allies of the American right (like the Baltics), or disarmed, Second class Russians?

After the war, the Global Elites will all try to go back into Ukraine, but they will all now have personal AK-74’s and know how to use them, which the global elites worst nightmare.

After March, it became obvious Ukraine was going to go bad for Russia. They didn’t win the popular support of the people and they proved to be pretty weak logistically. Sure they can turn cities into rubble, but that won’t allow you to take over a country of 30 million people that don’t want you there.

In the last week, the Russia suffered a crushing defeat, further stengthening Ukrainian resolve to win. We (American Conservatives that are against global elites) really don’t have a choice now on who to support, because Ukraine isn’t going to lose the war.

Unlike the Iraqi’s and Afghani’s, the Ukrainians are actually fighting for their country without us doing all the heavy lifting. They are a dream ally - here’s a weapon, protect your country.

How is promoting endless war and suffering supposed to help anyone? This is the same failed neocon formula we've seen for the past generation!

Russia craves security, particularly against NATO encroachment. The average Ukrainian just wants peace. Both these desires are easy to achieve, simply by giving NATO the boot. It is the warmongering, aggressive West that is the problem here, keeping the war going and running up the toll of suffering and death.

Ukraine is fighting for themselves. They will fight to the death and will never let Russia take over THEIR nation.

If Russia succeeds, there will be an infinite insurgency that will eventually require UN peace keepers. Russia realizing they are in a quagmire and look for an exit strategy is the best possible outcome at this point.

They are beginning to realize this, just now.

Meanwhile, in Camden AR, HIMARS orders are through the roof.

Neocons believe in pre-emptive wars. MAGA believes in peace though overwhelming US made firepower. Cindy Sheehan believed killing people is wrong.

Which one are you?

Peace through strength, but with a militia-oriented defense that cannot be used for imperialistic adventures, would best describe my position.

Your position implies a knee-jerk anti-Russian sentiment, which is understandable enough but does not allow for the idea that Russia might not always be in the wrong, and that the West has come under the control of some very evil people. If Russian is thrown back now, that does nothing to solve the real security concerns they've been raising at least since 2008. Over and over they warned NATO not to push too far with their expansionism. There's a good article from some months ago in The National Interest on the causes of the Ukraine war that goes into some detail on this.

So if Russian is pushed back, their security concerns remain. An arrogant West is unlikely to listen or make the necessary concessions for a lasting peace. My take is that just pushes them to double down at the next available opportunity. Maybe they go nuclear at the outset in "round 2." Maybe they wage a wider war to push the West to negotiate.

I've given $20K personally to help Ukrainian relief efforts, so my first interest in this topic is for the civilians caught in this mess. It's just that even before the National Interest article I mentioned above, I came to realize the Russian acts in the Crimea and eastern Ukraine didn't appear in a vacuum. They were responses to Western aggression that is understandably downplayed or ignored by Western propaganda organs. Therein lies the root cause.

Helping our allies with weapons to fight off imperialist aggressors isn’t imperial aggression. It’s the opposite.

Neocons believe in Pre-emptive war. Isn’t Putin a Neocon?

The EU/NATO isn’t Putin’s security concern. Before he invaded Ukraine they were all content to drink party and buy gas from him.

They’d all like to go back to drinking and partying and buying gas from him.

Now that Ukraine has demonstrated they can Blitzcreig, too, I’m confident there will be a negotiated settlement.

The Biden clowns that went to the Woodrow Wilson school of Fing up the world will try to make it punitive against Putin, but they’ll be overruled, Putin will throw 5-10 generals under the bus, give away some free gas and we all go back to Feb 22.