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Scientists say their device can pull water from the air to create green hydrogen
AsiaOne ^ | SEPTEMBER 06, 2022 | Holly Chik

Posted on 09/12/2022 5:14:47 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

Why not just salt as both the desiccant and electrolyte?


41 posted on 09/12/2022 7:08:43 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: adorno

“why do the electrolysis out there, when, like I said, water is everywhere? Electrolysis can be done with abundant water elsewhere, and then the hydrogen can be transported to where it’s needed, including the desert. It wold still end up more cost-effective if done away from the desert.”

Let me see your calcs.


42 posted on 09/12/2022 7:19:20 PM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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Let me see your calcs.

Let me see the results of that hypothetical dry-area electrolysis first. Once YOUR calcs are available, then, perhaps the sales and effectiveness can be calculated and compared to other methods.
43 posted on 09/12/2022 7:45:14 PM PDT by adorno
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When China reduces the share of natural gas in its energy mix in the coming decades, the existing pipeline network can be used to transport hydrogen from the west to the eastern coastal cities,”

The idiot that wrote this has never heard of hydrogen embrittilment of high carbon steel.

44 posted on 09/12/2022 8:55:14 PM PDT by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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It will be really easy to do this when the World Government convenes to suspend the laws of physics.


45 posted on 09/12/2022 9:05:07 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: nickcarraway

AND all they need is massive taxpayer funding to make it work.


46 posted on 09/12/2022 9:21:41 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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Ran across this the other day that has gone completely unnoticed by the Greenies, enviro-idiots and the climate change doomsayers.....

‘How Co2 Could Be The Fuel Of The Future’
https://www.facebook.com/vicenews/videos/how-co2-could-be-the-fuel-of-the-future-vice-on-hbo/2123005001063054/

The video is an eye-opener and could, theoretically, solve a lot of issues/problems as it regards green idiot policies, etc.


47 posted on 09/12/2022 10:31:53 PM PDT by cranked
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To: TexasGator

You’re kind of a dick ain’t ya.


48 posted on 09/12/2022 11:45:22 PM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: nickcarraway

My dehumidifier takes two gallons per day out the air.


49 posted on 09/13/2022 5:13:13 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: adorno

“Let me see the results of that hypothetical dry-area electrolysis first. Once YOUR calcs are available, then, perhaps the sales and effectiveness can be calculated and compared to other methods.”

You were the one that made the claim, not me. I guess you were just ranting?

—————YOUR CLAIM-—————

It wold still end up more cost-effective if done away from the desert.”


50 posted on 09/13/2022 6:18:53 AM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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“Let me see the results of that hypothetical dry-area electrolysis first. Once YOUR calcs are available, then, perhaps the sales and effectiveness can be calculated and compared to other methods.”

I still hold with that statement.

It's YOU and the people suggesting the desert electrolysis who have to prove that it's cost effective. That the desert idea might work is not an issue; the issue is about how it would be cost-effective and better than doing it with readily available water elsewhere and then bringing the hydrogen to where needed. I still say that, an unproven method cannot be compared to what's available now.
51 posted on 09/13/2022 7:41:17 AM PDT by adorno
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“It’s YOU and the people suggesting the desert electrolysis who have to prove that it’s cost effective. “

I never made that claim. You made the baseless claim.


52 posted on 09/13/2022 7:45:35 AM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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To: nickcarraway

Is this the new LENR? Is Rossi involved in this?


53 posted on 09/13/2022 7:48:10 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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I never made that claim. You made the baseless claim.

I can make the claim because you supported the idea. So, produce the studies and cost-effectiveness to back up the idea.
54 posted on 09/13/2022 8:03:56 AM PDT by adorno
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“I can make the claim because you supported the idea. So, produce the studies and cost-effectiveness to back up the idea”

Cite that post. I posted facts.

OTOH, I cited your baseless claim.


55 posted on 09/13/2022 9:24:39 AM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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To: adorno

Cost of producing H2 and delivering it 200 miles (one truck load): $140.

Cost of producing it locally: Free


56 posted on 09/13/2022 9:33:43 AM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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BTW, I didn’t include deposits on the bottles or meals for the driver. I assumed the villagers would take car of the driver.


57 posted on 09/13/2022 9:40:02 AM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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Cost of producing it locally: Free

You sound like a socialist.

Free? You gotta be kidding.

Labor? Free.

Cost of materials? Free.

Cost of machinery? Free

Cost of storage? Free

Cost to deliver to users? Free

Cost of maintenance and repairs? Free

Whatever else? Free

Looks like delivery of hydrogen from elsewhere would be a bargain.

But, as the socialist you appear to be, education in the U.S.: free. Cost of welfare: free. Cost of military: free. Cost of inflation: nothing.

Hey, I like your way of thinking. I'm in. Try selling your way to America and the world.
58 posted on 09/13/2022 9:43:38 AM PDT by adorno
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BTW, I didn’t include deposits on the bottles or meals for the driver. I assumed the villagers would take car of the driver.

Why would the driver have to be taken care of? Isn't it the same cost as the labor in your electrolysis method?
59 posted on 09/13/2022 9:46:31 AM PDT by adorno
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Your numbers, please.


60 posted on 09/13/2022 9:46:33 AM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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