Posted on 11/17/2022 2:46:28 PM PST by gitmo
My neighbor was in Army/AirForce and spent over a year in a Stalag when his B16 was shot down. Carried the steel from his plane in his body till he died. When captured they made him walk naked ( it was winter) until he reached a camp. Wasn’t a fun time for him. Even with that he laughter at the show but it wasn’t a funny laugh if you get what I mean.
ShadowAce got the joke at the end of the article:
“Right about now, we are gearing up for Hanukkah. Hanukkah greets winter; Purim says farewell to winter. I am already there, in a Purim mood, thinking about how Jews fought back against our enemies in ancient Persia.
How did Jews usually fight back against their enemies, especially when they were powerless?
They ridiculed them. That is what we do on Purim. We ridicule the hapless King Ahasuerus, who was an ancient version of Klink, and we lampoon the evil, genocidal Haman.
Now I know why Klemperer, Banner, Askin, Clary, and Cohen were so eager to appear in “Hogan’s Heroes.”
They were fighting back in a traditional Jewish style — making Nazis absurd.
It was to have been their dead relatives’ only partial victory — a raised middle finger, from the grave, to the Nazis.
May Robert Clary now join Klemperer, Banner, Askin, and Cohen in the World to Come.
May they be laughing, into eternity, at the ones whose names and memories should be blotted out.”
PS - - I wasted a few minutes perusing that guys’ website. He’s an ultra “progressive” reform rabbi who loves democracy so much he hopes the recently elected Bibi and Ben Gvir drop dead, and if they don’t, he urges every synagogue and Jewish institution in the U.S. should CANCEL them because of their PRO ISRAEL POLICIES.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a big advocate of baby killing, as well as the transgaygenda™️.
Bill Crane (Hogan) in real-live was reported to be a pervert who had an obsessive craving for pornography. He was bludgeoned to death at an early age following the end of the series.
Absolutely, they saw unmentionable things.
My old man does talk about the time a King Tiger came up on them.
“How did Jews usually fight back against their enemies, especially when they were powerless?
They ridiculed them.”
I’ve always advised kids dealing with bullies to take that same approach. Even if the ridicule is only private or inward, turning your tormenter(s) into a joke goes a long way in reducing the personal pain involved.
There’s a movie about him. It is thought but never proven that his pervert partner in parties is the guilty one who killed him. He denied it to his grave but all of the evidence pointed to him. And it’s BOB Crane not Bill.
“That is what we do on Purim. We ridicule the hapless King Ahasuerus”
Why him, and not Haman? Ahasuerus was a doofus; Haman was evil.
That’s probably why they sound up in the camps. Nazi’s aren’t known for their sense of humor.
I’d rather used a gun.
You are correct. Thanks.
A favorite show when I was a teenager, back when comedies were actually funny.
About 3 years ago I was invited to travel back to Europe. We would be within easy driving distance of Auschwitz. I was encouraged to go. I was like ‘Why the F would I ever want to go there?’
Nein Danke, let them have their ‘memorials’ for themselves. My ancestors fled Europe well over a century ago, some closer to 2 centuries. I ain't never going back to that dump no matter how chic people seem to think that it is.
Bob?
I have heard this before.
I will also point out that Mel Brooks has been doing the same schtick.
Great new movie made Netflix a while back, My Best Friend Anne Frank, a true story about Anne Frank’s best friend, who knew her in Amsterdam and then met her in the camps and tried to save her life, but failed. She and her little sister survived, and each had a dozen children. The epilogue of the film says that they considered that prolific number their “revenge on Hitler”.
Moses told the Jews as he took their leave of them to “chose life”. This deformed rabbi seems to have skipped that part, wishing death on Bibi, et al.
“ The article says that for many viewers, the idea of incompetent Nazis was unacceptable, because the Nazi concentration camps and POW camps were too fresh in the nation’s memory.”
50 years on idiots say that.
Hogan’s Heroes was 20 years after the war ended. It wasn’t controversial or offensive. And the audience included people, and their family members, who actually fought and defeated the Nazis.
57 years later it’s controversial and offensive to people who weren’t even born when it was on.
As a boy, I always thought Hogan’s Heros (HH for Heil-you-know-Hoo?) was making Nazis out to be lovable fat boys and ridiculous colonels with their monocles, but I must say that I was mistaken. It’s of a piece with Mel Brooks’ The Producer (the original, not the crappy remake) although growing up I never appreciated that aspect of it.
Same...remember watching a Clary interview on youtube some time back, the the first time I had heard...even though I always suspected that was the case...considering the subject matter.
Werner Klemperer also played the Nazi judge prisoner Emil Hahn in “Judgment at Nuremberg”.
Ernst Janning : “Emil Hahn, the decayed, corrupt bigot, obsessed by the evil within himself.”
Emil Hahn: “Today, you sentence me! Tomorrow, the Bolsheviks sentence you!”
Emil Hahn: “How dare they show us those films, how dare they? We are not executioners, we are judges!”
Emil Hahn: “Germany was fighting for its life. Certain measures were needed to protect it from its enemies. I cannot say that I am sorry we applied those measures. We were a bulwark against Bolshevism. We were a pillar of Western culture. A bulwark and a pillar the West may yet wish to retain.”
In making fun of the Nazis, Hogan's Heroes had an honorable precedent. During World War Two, director Ernst Lubitsch, who was German born and Jewish, cast Jack Benny and Carole Lombard in a comedy, To Be or Not to Be, that made fun of the Nazis using the vehicle of a Polish theater troop in occupied Warsaw.
The film was initially scorned by some critics, and Benny's father walked out in anger at seeing his son in a Nazi uniform. He was later persuaded to watch it though and came to love the film, as have most critics since then. To Be or Not to Be is now thought of as a comedy classic.
“Zo they call me Concentration Camp Erhard.”
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