Posted on 12/16/2022 7:20:31 PM PST by NetAddicted
That was a vet who was pissed off. And probably still is.
I knew
Yes the vet probably still is.
The Great Deception is still running rampant.
A study that postulated low Vitamin D as a precursor to a severe COVID-19 infection, and then studied the impact of large-dose Vitamin C?
Boy I'm so impressed I'm shaking. LOL.
Don’t pimp studies you don’t understand.
Thank you so much for the info. Have a blessed holiday season!
My questions were delivered in good faith and would factually help to resolve the issue unambiguously, whichever way the chips fall.
The answer of the hospital person to the inquiry "This conversation is over" along with suddenly not being able to find any records of the baby, indicates the hospital was NOT acting in good faith: if they had been upfront about all the risks going in, then "standard of care" would shield them from lawsuits.
Merry Christmas, Swampy.
Here's a start.
The jab which you trolls swore was safe and effective, is now admitted by the FDA to cause blood clots in recipients.
You might consider it a necessary precondition, to the idea it causes clots in those receiving blood from the jabbed.
Are you in favor of unrestricted blood donation by homosexuals, by the way?
As opposed to you trolls, where even the death of baby will not even cause you to pause for a moment in advancing YOUR narrative.
Sod Off Swampy as the old saying goes.
As I posted to gas_dr, it is things like this which will drive us to have separate, parallel medical systems. And perhaps if the medical establishment and Pharma try to stop us, there will be trouble for them. There is simply no excuse for not hiring the wish of the parents in this instance. At present, I would simply arrange it in another country and fly there without telling the asshole MD and hospital.
If the parents want unvaxxed blood for their child, they should have their request honored. Simple as that. The stars and MDs opinion about vxd/unvxd blood are irrelevant. Three yrs ago all blood was un-cv19vxd.
If I’m the parent and that happens to my child, those responsible would have a big problem. We’ve had it.
It's not more complicated than what you have stated.
“Don’t pimp studies you don’t understand.”
Not only did you decide to be needlessly insulting, but it is obvious you did not even read much of this trial. This study was done before vaccines were widely available. The original plan was to study and determine if the 3 drug Zelenko Protocol was enhanced by providing high dose IV Vitamin C to half the subjects. 5000IU of Vitamin D was also provided, I don’t remember the reason they decided to add the Vitamin D.
However, the big surprise to the scientists came when they reviewed the blood work of the subjects that was taken BEFORE they began the experiment, and examined after the study was over. They found that NO subject had OPtIMUM blood Vitamin D levels when they came to the hospital. Patients at the hospitals were not chosen to be in this study because of their blood Vitamin D levels. They were chosen because they had come to the hospital often with several illnesses including Covid.
This was a study to determine if high IV Vitamin C (24 gm in 24 hours) given in addition to other potentially supportive drugs and supplements would shorten days spent hospitalized. The high Vitamin C was found to be significantly effective. [I might add far better than Fauci’s famous Remdesivir that was not very effective in comparison, and also cost us taxpayers around $3,000 per treatment course.] The finding that NONE of the subjects had entered the hospital with optimum blood levels of Vitamin D was discovered when scientists reviewed the original blood work done before the experiment began. In fact only 3 patients had “insufficient” vitamin D, and the rest were divided between “deficient” and “extremely deficient”. The only patient who died had one of the lowest levels measured of blood Vitamin D. Even the half of subjects who served as controls for the Vitamin C part of the study survived, showing that both treatment arms of the study worked, the Vitamin C part just worked faster.
This foreign study used the blood measure nmol/L (nanomols per liter) which is 2.5 times the US measure ngm/mL (nanograms per milliliter). Thus the study’s OPTIMUM of 75 nmol/L or more was equivalent to 30 ngm/mL or more in the US. In the US the cut-off point for insuffient was 20 ngm/mL, below that was deficient, and below 10 ngm/mL was very deficient. The woman who died had between 2 and 3 ngm/mL. So to lower your likelihood of needing hospitalization for anything get your blood Vitamin D tested, and then get enough sun exposure and Vitamin D3 supplements to get at or above the OPTIMUM level. My health care provider, Kaiser Permanente, considers the optimum range to be between 50 and 80 ngm/mL.
Doctors seem to forget who they work for.
The patient is hiring them to do a job, not to control their lives. We are not selling ourselves into indentured servitude or volunteering to be a human lab rat, by seeing a doctor for a problem we are experiencing.
We expect them to address and fix the problem, not experiment on us with or without our knowledge or permission.
That is absolutely fine. I have zero argument with that
Once you've squandered your credibility backing murderous sociopaths (remember the billions of dollars in CRIMINAL fines paid by Pfizer over Vioxx and Bextra, followed by their pushig to have the safety trial data on the jabs sealed for 75 years?), you can't just go "I'm a doctor" and expect anyone to care.
Grey Whiskers could not answer that question nor anyone else because the have zero idea what actually went on. There are about a million reasons for this kid to have thrombosis of the femoral veins and if it is correct although the parents interview is suspect extension to the IVC. The presence of MRSA either excludes in its entirety that this clot was caused by the transfusion or suggests MRSA septicemia was the cause. In either event it wasn’t the transfusion.
Yeah, my questions in 215 were designed to ferret out whether that happened in this particular case.
Your reply to that post was literally to call them distractions and nonsense.
Trust me. We’re this a clinical issue it would have been abundantly evident by now.
Yeah, that's what PFauci said too.
"Trust me"
"Safe and Effective"
Once you've backed sociopaths like Pfauci, just saying "I'm a *DOCTOR*" carries ZERO weight. Your credibility is shot.
We absolutely need competition in health care, no only between allopaths but also between modes of treatment. There are really only two things stopping this, and those are Pharma/insurance hunting of MDs and other medical professionals who do not follow the “standard of care”, and medical boards doing the same (both would seem related). I have been with a wellness MD for over 2 decades but because my medical is not standard of care, it is virtually all out of pocket. I am blessed to have HSA, and have few complaints, but most ppl are not so blessed.
Here’s my last experience with conventional. My son is an athlete and started having ingrown toenail issues about 4 years ago. We followed the traditional route with a podiatrist. By the time the podiatrist had finished with my son, he’d had two surgeries (one with general anaes) and his toe was still getting infected. The last straw was antibiotic resistant infection, for which the pod prescribed an antibiotic which the medical file indicated my son was allergic to. We fired the pod and went the wellness route: ozone therapy. The infection cleared up (as did acne). One spot reappeared but I dealt with that with oil of oregano and sterile draining of the pus (by me). Son also went on a special yeast-free diet for 4 months. It has been the best 9 month period in close to 5 years now. Allopathy failed (mostly). Why is this acceptable in what is supposed to be the most advanced and wealthy country in the world?
I cannot tell you how often the natural health community has been found to be correct as compared to the medical community over the years.
They were right on antibiotic use, probiotics, needing more calcium when you have kidney stones, instead of restricting it, to name a few.
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