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Home prices will never be the same (sellers in panic mode)
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Posted on 12/31/2022 8:42:14 AM PST by patriot torch

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To: Organic Panic
... I paid 36k and got 56k (six year later) from our glorious government overlords. The same properties that weren’t taken in that neighborhood were selling close to 500k when I lost mine and are now in the 800k to 1 million range.

OMG! I had no idea. The few eminent domain cases I've known up close and personal were road rights-of-way, where the dominated seller came out pretty hunky dory.

Your case is pathetic and should be unlawful - seriously. I hope your replacement home situation made up for at least part of the loss.

121 posted on 12/31/2022 1:43:45 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: fuzzylogic

The housing market is really just now experience lower prices. It takes a while for sellers and builders to emotionally accept a new reality. They may think the downturn is only a short-term thing. They are wrong.

Some sellers have to sell and builders have to reduce their inventory because interest on construction loans really start hurting after six months and banks will not be all that sympathetic about repayment.


122 posted on 12/31/2022 1:54:20 PM PST by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

We live in a city with a population of about 40k. My daughter bought her first house in ‘12. At the time there were about 300 foreclosures to choose from. She bought her 1600 sf 3 bedroom, 2 full bath, with new windows, roof and air conditioning for 12,000. With updating we did, its now valued at about 100k.

On the flip side, my daughter decided to get into house flipping ( because her dad has nothing better to do now that I’m retired lol ) and 2 1/2 years ago was able to find a vacant house in dire need of an overhaul. Foreclosed houses were hard to find at any price in our area then.. purchased at 14k. We finally finished and it’s going on the market next week for 85k.

I’m leary of any housing investment at this time for flip or rental.


123 posted on 12/31/2022 1:59:44 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: Savage Rider
Buy at the low point.
Right. I had equity, down payment cash ready to buy a fixer in 2011 when the RE mkt finally stopped dropping but everything was gone in 5 minutes in Florida.

Firms/People with real cash/cash. No bargaining, no time. Now they're all rentals, the owner has a 3% loan and the renters are paying up the rear end.

Owners (the cash guys) have triple their mortgage monthly. They'd get a fixer, paint it, put in a new sink, maybe some carpet to hide the stains, a couple plants out front, etc. ...

Sigh.

124 posted on 12/31/2022 2:15:08 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Texas Fossil

I know of a retired couple just having sold their winter condo in Clearwater Florida. Being in a hurry to get it on the market they listed with the first agent they contacted. She listed for 165k and brought a client in to see the property before it was even publicly listed. After a couple counter offers it was sold for 160. He was from Bosnia.
He played the part as if he was going to move in himself. By the time they returned home, the property was back on the market for 190 with the same agent. It appears she has a history of unethical practices with this client in the past.

Shortly after this I was watching an interview with a RE agent from Clearwater who stated that she sold an upscale house to a foreign family and when she went to the title company to record the sale she was told by the title company that there has been a flood of foreign purchasers paying cash, and the cash was being provided by the U.S. government up to 400k.

Not saying it was verified, just what I heard her say.


125 posted on 12/31/2022 2:19:13 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: vivenne

“I think this is being done in a lot of places, i.e. Liberal cities around the country. Obama started this with his goal if eliminating single family housing (except for him).”


obama/biden brought us cash for clunkers and destroyed the muscle car market.

The biden/harris market will turn the housing market into clunkers.


126 posted on 12/31/2022 2:34:15 PM PST by patriot torch
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To: patriot torch

So why do I get offers to buy my house site unseen almost every day.


127 posted on 12/31/2022 3:27:36 PM PST by gitmo
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To: smokingfrog; All

Yup, many people panic when they hear the word “panic” It’s a Pavlovian thing.


128 posted on 12/31/2022 6:02:17 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: alexander_busek

Thanks ,that completes my education. Happy New Year!


129 posted on 12/31/2022 6:46:41 PM PST by sopo
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To: patriot torch

Flippers, builders and realtors might be in a panic. Lower home prices are good news for many others and have no effect on most.


130 posted on 12/31/2022 9:11:40 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: Svartalfiar; Liz; SunkenCiv; Red Badger; BenLurkin; Kaslin

Oh yes, oh yes. But, you see, the county tax receipts can’t go up if the sales prices are used.

If ( WHEN) “appraisal prices” go up, the ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD gets to pay more taxes after a single house in the neighborhood is sold.


131 posted on 12/31/2022 9:28:34 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: gloryblaze

My case was a city park next to a river. The city attorneys knew there was no way in heck myself and the others could afford to fight it.


132 posted on 12/31/2022 10:32:28 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Svartalfiar
Property taxes are designed to cover the municipality budget. So, if valuations go up, the rate comes down, and vice-versa.

Now politician will raise the budget regardless of whether values go up or down.

133 posted on 01/01/2023 9:08:21 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Robert A Cook PE
Oh yes, oh yes. But, you see, the county tax receipts can’t go up if the sales prices are used.

Sure they can. As homes are sold for more, the taxes go up. And if they really need more $$, they can vote on a tax increase. So the people have some control over this through their reps, whereas if taxes go up arbitrarily every year, the people have no control over that.

Besides, what extra functions is the city/school/county providing when these taxes go up on their own? If my taxes go up 10% every year, what additional benefit am I getting out of that? Why shouldn't my taxes be consistent and easily planned for year-after-year?
134 posted on 01/01/2023 9:26:57 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Fido969
Property taxes are designed to cover the municipality budget. So, if valuations go up, the rate comes down, and vice-versa.

Now politician will raise the budget regardless of whether values go up or down.


I doubt very many cities/counties lower rates, unless the population forces them to. I know my taxes have definitely bumped up every year, and that's solely because of the city appraisals. There was no rate lowering to match the overall tax from previous years.
135 posted on 01/01/2023 9:30:44 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: patriot torch

bump


136 posted on 01/01/2023 10:35:48 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: patriot torch

Florida and Texas are both being heavily hit by lots of outsiders now. They are looking for a place to ride this thing out.

25% Inflation will collapse the dollar and that is what the Xi-O’Biden administration intends to do. To destroy the USA and make a bunch of slaves of the world.


137 posted on 01/01/2023 6:34:03 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: patriot torch

Total BS post


138 posted on 01/01/2023 6:40:15 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: patriot torch

That sounds credible, with the #ComDem’s in power.

There are no rules with them.


139 posted on 01/02/2023 3:41:17 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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