Posted on 01/29/2023 8:57:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind
NO!!!!
I’ve seen how the government has run the post office, the DMV, the Dept of Education, and the IRS.
NO WAY IN HECK do I want their grubby fingers in my health care.
I think the advantage plans will take over Medicare. 38 million on it already.
in 2022, 28.4 million of 58.6 Medicare beneficiaries are enrolled in Medicare Advantage plans. 48%.
I was told by a Rehab that skilled nursing care on Advantage plans like Rehabs or nursing homes can be less than traditional Medicare. I don’t know if that is true.
I thought the Advantage plans had to cover everything the traditional Medicare covered, but they act more like an HMO with limited networks for cost containment, than does Traditional Medicare.
RE: I’ve seen how the government has run the post office, the DMV, the Dept of Education, and the IRS.
And lately, the horrible immigration department
RE: We went through this crap when Bill put Hillary in charge of healthcare reform. We didn’t want it then, and we don’t want it now
The America of the 1990’s is not the same as the America of the 2020’s and beyond anymore.
As an example, I don’t think someone like Rudy Giuliani will ever be Mayor of NYC again.
It might not fly in the USA but the Swedes were good with for two generations.
16 million Americans just signed up for Obama Care. 3 million were new ones.
Do Americans Really Want Universal Health Insurance?
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Most Americans want as much as they can get...partially through work and partially through the ballot-box. Increasingly though, the ballot-box is more appealing as someone else has to do the work for you.
Obamacare won’t be repealed, because it can’t be repealed - or, more exactly, it can’t be repealed without ushering in huge Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.
Members of Congress don’t know much, but they can count votes like a pimp in a whorehouse can count money.
Yes, the voters “hate Obamacare and want it repealed”. That is absolutely true.
It’s also true that they want the ability to buy insurance for pre-existing conditions, want insurance companies to be forbidden to cancel policies for non-payment, want zero payment at the point of service, want their adult children who are smoking dope in a dive in Oakland to stay covered, want their States to expand Medicaid without taxes going up, and so on.
In other words, the only two things they hate about Obamacare are paying for it, and the name.
Republicans in Congress understand this perfectly well, which is why there’s no plan.
And, not coincidentally, Obamacare (and Romneycare) were the culmination of fifty years of “reform”, all of which had the purpose of destroying the private sector or making it impossible for the private sector to function, except for boob jobs and a few other things. And, by 2009, the mission was largely accomplished.
Obamacare was merely a temporary mop-up operation, until full nationalization was possible.
And now, it is.
It’s coming, because it’s what the voters, bless their pointy little heads, want.
Oh, please!
Two of the most critical elements destroying what we have now were signed into law by Ronald Reagan - Medicare Prospective Payment (1983) and EMTALA (1986).
If you do not understand how these "reforms" destabilized and eventually destroyed a functioning system, requiring more and more interventions to the point that collapse is now inevitable, you really shouldn't be discussing this issue.
We wanted it in 1965 when Medicare was passed. We wanted it in 1983 when prospective payment was passed. We wanted it in 1986 when EMTALA was passed.
It takes time to destroy things. Americans think if they cause a stupid law to be passed, a stupid court or agency finding to stand, and the heavens don't fall in six weeks that everything is going to be OK.
America has been begging for nationalized health care for DECADES, by the mechanism of allowing the destruction of a functioning system.
And now, you are going to get what you've been begging for all these years.
Hope you like it.
I completely agree. And as a moderator on a cancer page, I’ve read plenty. It’s interesting how they find it normal and are grateful because ‘it’s free’. Occasionally, I can’t help myself and remind them it’s not free. They pay for it, but thru taxes. But, for the most part I try and bite my tongue since I’m a mod.
Exactly
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