Posted on 04/08/2023 7:32:28 AM PDT by DoodleBob
how wonderful
He looks just like the jesus in the chosen.
I feel like I have a greater appreciation for His sacrifice, and the depravity of sin, because of that movie.
However, The Shroud provides an IMMENSE amount of detail into Our Lord's suffering, and it's not Hollywood or fakery.
I'm sure many people will reply to this thread "I don't need the Shroud" and other dismissive comments. Good for you.
My faith doesn't hinge on the Shroud. But it is certainly bolstered by it.
Eh. Maybe. It is an artists’ conception, based on a legend.
But if you haven’t come to saving faith in Christ, you simply aren’t saved, despite being moved in viewing any object.
Roman Guards were highly skilled and brutal at beating those they were ordered to. For example, in Mel Gibson's "Passion of the Christ" Jesus was near unrecognizable and there wasn't a spot on his upper body, back, chest, head etc that wasn't bruised and bloody. That representation aligned with what I'd visualized from reading about Christ's beating and crucifixion in the Bible and not coincidentally with published medical expert opinions about the condition of Christ's body after the beating, carrying of His cross, and the brutality of His Crucifixion. All of which brought me to tears while visualizing what my Savior did for me.
And so that's why I'm unsure what to think of this representation. I'm not intending to cast dispersion on the article or effort to depict Christ in this moment. Just trying to resolve what I'd visualized with this. Nothing more.
Peace to all this blessed Easter weekend. We serve a Risen Savior!
Amen, Bob. Your last sentence in particular
Dominus meus et Deus meus.
I did notice, while watching The Chosen, how much the person playing Jesus resembled the image on The Shroud.
John 20:29
New International Version
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
Very moving.
Thank you for the article.
It does not violate the second commandment, similar to other artistic renderings of Christ, because we are not worshipping the statute.
Fascinating that it shows all the scourge marks on his body. This level detail is not readily visible in most of the iconic images of the shroud available. You have to dig for them.
The more forensic science advances, the more it seems to support the shroud’s authenticity.
How tall?
From Shroud-based research, the Man on the Cloth/Jesus is 6 feet, 2 inches, give or take.
Bttt.
5.56mm
A carpenter that walked a lot, I think those legs could use a little more work.
A little advertisement for Turin (Torino) which is a related topic. Often missed by tourists,Turin comes off as a small upscale American city with lots of shopping.
Attached to the Royal Palace is the chapel built to house the shroud. Both are spectacular, the Chapel of the Shroud is a sublimely beautiful design. Everything recently restored as if brand new.
They also have an Egyptian museum second only to the one in Cairo and again modern and clever design.
Turin sort of reminds me of visiting the great museums in New York City, as they and the city existed 60 years ago.
The shroud, naturally enough, was on tour in the United States when we were in Turin.
Fascinating.
Thank you for posting.
Just watched Passion again yesterday...truly moving.
Will be interesting to see how Gibson does the Resurrection.
As a Baptist, I am convinced of the authenticity.
The Shroud is almost certainly authentic.
The Shroud is NOT a graven image because it was not created by men.
You react strongly, Bob, to the film, as do I. Interesting that God timed the crucifixion for an age when photography did not yet exist.
He is completely capable of generating saving faith without it, so He did not need to wait for photography’s invention nor to hasten its development.
Nor, as you noted, does faith depend on the Shroud.
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