Posted on 04/23/2023 6:27:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway
I have many good friends on Federal Hill in Providence—fiercely pro-American, and yes the tomato based sauce is gravy. Suck it up and lick the drippings off your tie, it’s the best food and the most loyal friends you’ll ever find. And if you don’t agree, good luck to your family finding your body.
Just sayin’.
This sheds light on something my father always used to do: call tomato sauce “gravy.” He was the first generation born in the US, so he probably heard the term growing up. When my Mom would make spaghetti Dad would say: “We’re having macs and gravy.” (For me, I say: pasta with sauce. Ragu tends to be more elaborate. We make a pork ragu that will make you eat yourself into a stupor!)
Fireside and St Augusine corner. Had an old quarry across the road we fished in. Swam with black kids down the road at the pool.
Proud to be a Grove Rat. It’s mostly Hispanic now.
I’m salivating like crazy. Where can one find a restaurant that serves these old traditional dishes, just like from the old country, without being bastardized beyond recognition.
Played at the creek too.
That sounds awesome. My grans neighbors in the Grove were Italian. Great people.
Ping!
Pepper and egg sandwiches-BREAKFAST!
In Southern California, it's pretty tough to find such a restaurant. There are no longer a lot of Italians living here and many "Italian" restaurants are owned by Middle Easterners and East Asians. But there are still a few good ones such as Fratellino's in Brea, Vince's in Ontario and the Eastside Market in Los Angeles, across the freeway from Chinatown.
One of my favorites, Andre's, in the Fairfax district across the street from Farmer's Market, had to close due to the renovation of the mall in which it was located, but the website is still up and I'm hoping they'll be back. I like their gravy-style red sauce poured over eggplant parmigiana or baked chicken and served with spaghetti.
Yep I was last there in 2014 visiting. Businesses on Buckner Blvd were unrecognizable.
I just took delivery of an Ooni wood-fired pizza oven and am going to set it up and test it tomorrow. Can't wait!
“I know my grandfather told my father something like, you’re in America, you speaka da English.”
That was the same case with my German Oma und Opa. They arrived from Danzig in 1927 with their three young kids at Ellis Island. Since WW I was only nine years in the rear-view mirror, they got beat up a lot in the Bronx. But Rule #1 was You are an American now, speak English. Opa was successful in the elevator business and all three kids were very successful.
No true Italian says “gravy.” Italians say “salsa,” “sugo” “ragu” and a few other more regional terms. I am half Italian and love Italian culture but find Italian American culture cringy and dying due to assimilation and intermarriage anyway.
Nice.
I got all the materials to build one sans mortar. Just need to figure where I want to put it because it will stand forever/as long as I am here.
Oh what I wouldn’t give for a pizza from Caserta’s or a loaf of Italian bread from Scialo’s or any bakery on “The Hill”
I’d got a Koda 16. Love it.
I know that in our family and at least three other Italian American families, it was de rigueur for my FATHER to make Sunday gravy.
It was the ONLY day that Papa was in control of the kitchen.
Contrary to some who think differently, Italian Americans’ homes were Matriarchically run.
We had Gagoots (zucchini) and egg sandwiches.
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