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EXCLUSIVE: America's 'working homeless' who live in RV encampments lining streets across the nation: Small business owners, prison guards and Amazon workers among people opting to live off the grid - but locals say they're a blight on their communities
Daily Mail UK ^ | May 28, 2023 | Paul Farrell

Posted on 05/28/2023 9:55:20 PM PDT by Morgana

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I figured the ones living in RV's were the working poor and not junkies. It's a crying shame rent is so high they can't get a place to live. They will give a place to illegals but not these people?
1 posted on 05/28/2023 9:55:20 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Nice way to live. We owe them a big parking lot out of sight so they can be out of mind.

Makes me wonder if the left would like to take over all trailer parks for them.


2 posted on 05/28/2023 10:04:28 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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If this had happened under Trump (ridiculous, I know, he was driving prices lower) we would have stories about how Donald Trump was the cause of every one of these people's problems.

The MSM would be spotlighting a different homeless family every day, getting every one of them to beg President Trump to please do something for them. We'd be hearing about how oil companies and financial institutions were making record profits, and how Trump was helping them do so because he's a member of the rich guy's club.

But Donald Trump isn't President. The man who is President is — in fact — a very wealthy man, from a very wealthy family. This man has made many decisions that have caused prices to shoot up for everyone in America.

But the MSM will not make the connection, and instead direct anger in any direction other than the correct one at every chance they get.

3 posted on 05/28/2023 10:05:31 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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Oh come on now. I’m sure there are very nice parking lots available down at Martha’s Vineyard. Why not there? Be reasonable now.


4 posted on 05/28/2023 10:06:36 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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My only problem with this is that they’re basically parked clogging city streets and neighborhoods. Just like street vendors, usurping the space shared by nearby owners and businesses. Public lands should not be abused in this manner. How do you nearby businesses and homeowners recoup the loss on their property value and business access?


5 posted on 05/28/2023 10:08:33 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Donald Tantrum? No Thank You. We Can Do Better!)
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America's 'working homeless' who live in RV encampments lining streets across the nation

Bidenvilles.
6 posted on 05/28/2023 10:19:45 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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There are more than a few people in RVs who work in and around Stanford University Hospital. Their actual residence is hours and hours away. They work their 4-5 days, and then go home to their family. There are many police officers and firefighters who do the same thing.


7 posted on 05/28/2023 10:20:44 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Morgana

Another growing issue is people living in rented storage units. We’ve had two recent fires in our town caused by people living in units that were not designed to have people living in them, creating a hazard to themselves and other people and their property. The first of these storage facilities was quite large, and ended up being completely destroyed, along with the property of all others who were renting the units for storge.


8 posted on 05/28/2023 10:23:25 PM PDT by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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i generally take it that the homeless workers represents a new economic phenonemonin which semi-skilled workers are no longer able to afford a mortgage or apartment rent, and are forced into a permanent RV lifestyle from which it is difficult to escape. They can descend, but climbing is very difficult. Under my presumptions, this is not just because profit margins are thin, but because there is multinational corporate greed and a corresponding lack of concern for employees in general. The RV housed semi skilled workers, being at the bottom of the multinational corporate pyramid, are the symptom of multinational corporate greed. I’m fairly certain that this was not a phenomenon in the 1950s through the 1970s.

Ideally the problem would solve itself if corporate management concerned itself more with longer term employee welfare. However, it seems as if current laws and regulations discourages corporations from taking interest in employee well-being. I think a harbinger of that trend was the transferrable 401k plan. Transferability of retirement plans is generally a good thing, but it ushered in an age in which job changes occur every three year on the average (if that long), corporations are reluctant to invest in employees through training, and pensions (outside of government and government mandated pensions) are a thing of the remote past.

If the future is represented by corporate sentiment to the effect that people will own nothing and be happy or happier, then the RV housing phenomenon will become a future that awaits most of us and our descendants.


9 posted on 05/28/2023 10:36:00 PM PDT by SteveH
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Problem is, we don’t build affordable houses anymore, every house is a big and cost at least a half million, if you can’t get those prices, builders aren’t interested.


10 posted on 05/28/2023 10:37:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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If you take a look at the homeless camps, you see lots of white men, some white women, and black men and women in more equal proportion. You see some Hispanic males but very few Asian people. Empirically I observe mostly white males. The question is why there aren’t huge crowds of Mexican immigrants. The answer is that there is money available to welcome new residents and non for the citizens that are already here.

I believe that the housing is being provided for immigrants and the rent is subsidized. The subsidies make rent higher because the landlord can charge more and be guaranteed payment with low risk of having to evict deadbeats. The availability of housing is decreased because occupancy is higher y immigrants and the rents go up because the supply of housing is shrinking.

Another effect of homelessness is that the people living in tents are effectively disenfranchised because they don’t have addresses any more and they get rousted out of their camps every few months. They can’t vote in their own self interest. This is also why drugs are so readily available. It keeps the homeless doped up and uncaring because they are having their addictions supplied.


11 posted on 05/28/2023 11:05:31 PM PDT by webheart
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To: SteveH

https://www.jimmymcmillan.org/


12 posted on 05/29/2023 12:07:08 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Too many illegals + Too high taxes + environmental restrictions on all sorts of stuff = RENT's TOO D@MN HIGH!


13 posted on 05/29/2023 12:08:30 AM PDT by Paladin2
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From the article:

Quintero said many of the Venezuelan community in New York City live in shelters and, other than his brother, there are none of his countrymen in the area.

‘My country now is crazy... a lot of people are coming across the border now. It’s crazy. They’re asking for apartments, the want money. It’s crazy, you gotta work, bro. How you gonna come to another country and you don’t want to do nothing?’


14 posted on 05/29/2023 12:20:46 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (Desperately looking for new conspiracy theories as all the old ones have come truep)
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Oh come on now. I’m sure there are very nice parking lots available down at Martha’s Vineyard. Why not there? Be reasonable now.

In the 1990s, I drove through and past Palm Springs. The city looked pristine and affluent. It has a reputation for attracting wealthy celebrities.

But on the city's outskirts, I saw shabby trailers and RVs. I assumed those were for the minimum wage clerks, waiters, landscapers, pool boys, and baristas servicing the city's affluent.

15 posted on 05/29/2023 12:21:05 AM PDT by Angelino97
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If I was living like that, I would find me a place in the boonies


16 posted on 05/29/2023 12:25:26 AM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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So they live on public land without permission and they pay no property taxes like the rest of us.


17 posted on 05/29/2023 12:44:56 AM PDT by vivenne
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I live in a condo, and part of our monthly association fee goes to pay for trash pickup. RVs don’t pay for trash pick up or sewage fees.


18 posted on 05/29/2023 1:12:34 AM PDT by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: webheart

i do not have any demographics, but i suspect that many of the entry level semi-skilled jobs are being filled by illegal migrants.

when blue collar jobs are eliminated, the blue collar worker falls to the next rung of the economic ladder, semi-skilled positions. but there are many illegal migrants who can also do that work. over time, illegal migrants take over semi-skilled occupations at the expense of unemployed us citizens.

many countries outlaw or severely limit this displacement as a safeguard to prioritize its native citizens over its illegal migrants. the usa only makes a half-hearted attempt to do so.

i agree that unemployed white males in particular do not seem to be the recipients of very many government subsidies and benefits.


19 posted on 05/29/2023 1:16:56 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: Morgana

Xidenvilles.


20 posted on 05/29/2023 1:21:34 AM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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