Posted on 07/19/2023 3:59:08 PM PDT by ransomnote
I tend to agree with you.
One of the reasons I won’t get an ordinary flu shot or a shingles shot is because of nurses like her.
For every nurse that might give a saline shot instead of the Covid vaccine, there might be a nurse that will sneak in a Covid vaccine without one being requested.
Thank you for the info! :D
You nailed it. I was just following orders is no defense Ala Nuremberg trials. If you are aware of a systematic effort to do harm, you have every right to disobey.
“Anti vaxxers are arrogant fascists who believe they know better than patients whether to take these shots or not. “
How is it fascism to not want the government to inject you???
You don’t know what the term “fascist” means. Let’s educate you, our little retarded child. Fascism is a centralized government headed by dictatorial leaders that demand obedience and impose economic and social punishments for those that disobey, a form of group think and obedience.
YOU are the fascist by demanding everyone take the experimental Genocide Juice.
Osage Orange wrote: “Can you prove they didn’t.”
The obligation to prove is on the person making the claim.
ransomnote wrote: “Yes, I can. But you’re a troll defending useless, toxic ‘vaccines’ so why should I waste my time looking for it.”
IOW, you can’t provide any supporting documentation that Soros/Gates created/managed covid tesing. Just more unsupported conspiracy claims on your part.
T.B. Yoits wrote: “Pfizer themselves admitted their Jim Jones Jab doesn’t NOTHING to protect the recipient and the data shows it gives the recipient negative efficacy.”
Show your proof.
CFW wrote: “I suspect those that received every vaccine and booster recommended are just still attempting to justify their doing so. And, they continue to ignore all evidence showing that the vaccines might have caused more harm than good.”
I suspect you have no more proof of that than any of the other anti-vaxxers on this thread.
Oh B.S.! The vaccine did little to stop anyone from either catching or spreading Covid-19. Even public health officials are, albeit very slowly, admitting that fact. In addition, early treatment of symptoms were more likely to have more benefit than the “wait until you can’t breathe and then go to the hospital” treatment that was recommended by most physicians.
I suspect those that did not receive the recommended vaccines are just still attempting to justify their doing so while continuing to ignore all evidence showing that the vaccines saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
They stopped telling that lie more than a year ago.
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/03/20/vaccine-effectiveness-hits-as-low-as-minus-300-as-ukhsa-announces-it-will-no-longer-publish-the-data/
What percentage of them lived, as compared to the vaxxed population?
T.B. Yoits wrote: “You’re really still pretending the Jim Jones Jab had positive efficacy?”
Yes, the COVID vaccines have positive efficacy.
You’re making at least three mistakes if you believe otherwise.
First, the vaccines were far more effictive against the earlier strains which btw were the most deadly. Efficacy has dropped against the later strains which is why there are boosters.
Second, your confusing effacacy and effectiveness.
Third, the study you linked does not take into consideration various biases:
“Since the emergence of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant, multiple observational studies have reported negative vaccine effectiveness (VE) against infection, symptomatic infection, and even severity (hospitalization), potentially leading to an interpretation that vaccines were facilitating infection and disease. However, current observations of negative VE likely stem from the presence of various biases (e.g., exposure differences, testing differences).”
The Jim Jones Jab caused the mutations. These criminals disregarded the knowledge that vaccinating during a pandemic creates mutations and extends the pandemic.
There is no such thing as a "vaccine" or a "booster" for ANY coronavirus. The "booster" is a marketing term and Pfizer submitted no paperwork for a different compound than the original. The "booster" was a repeat of the same Jim Jones Jab.
The earlier variants weren't more dangerous. Medical staff, law enforcement, and others who couldn't maintain "social distance" from others had higher illness and death rates AFTER the Jim Jones Jab was released.
T.B. Yoits wrote: “Just stop.”
You’re the one who should stop.
The vaccines didn’t cause the mutations. It’s absurd to claim one shouldn’t vaccinate during a pandemic.
The vaccines exist whether you choose to believe so or not. The current vaccines have been updated to improve effectiveness against COVID.
Even a cursory examination of deaths and illness shows that the earlier variants were more dangerous and almost all viruses lose lethality as they evolve.
No, they did.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/leaky-vaccines-can-produce-stronger-versions-of-viruses-072715
It’s absurd to claim one shouldn’t vaccinate during a pandemic.
It's been known for decades that vaccinating during a pandemic delays the herd effect where the virus could have been stopped before it reached others. These criminals ignored that and tried to chemically rape everyone they could.
The vaccines exist whether you choose to believe so or not. The current vaccines have been updated to improve effectiveness against COVID.
I see you can read from the Pfizer brochure. Again, these are not vaccines despite the CDC changing their definition. They don't stop the recipient from getting or spreading the virus. They certainly haven't been "upgraded". In fact, the data shows Pfizer was even shipping placebos.
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/28/pfizer-vaccine-batches-in-the-eu-were-placebos-say-scientists/
Even a cursory examination of deaths and illness shows that the earlier variants were more dangerous and almost all viruses lose lethality as they evolve.
No. The data from Sweden, Africa, and the Amish communities show that those who didn't get the Jim Jones Jab had lower excess death rates. The data also shows that the excess death rates in Jim Jones countries climbed AFTER the Jim Jones Jab was released.
T.B. Yoits wrote:
Your link is about a study in chickens and it concludes tht leaky vaccines can allow viruses to survive and mutate to new variants. The problem is this. Natural immunity is also leaky and allows virus to survive and mutat.
Please provide documentation that health professionals recommend avoiding vaccination during pandemics.It’s absurd to claim one shouldn’t vaccinate during a pandemic. BTW, vaccination is the best path to herd immunity.
You do not get to define what is and what isn’t a vaccine. Your herd immunity doesn’t stop infections or the spread of a virus either.
Please document placebo shipments from Pfizer.
Show the data from Sweden, Africa, and the Amish communities show that those who didn’t get the Jim Jones Jab had lower excess death rates.
Show the data.
You do not get to define what is and what isn’t a vaccine.
Neither do you nor the shills at the CDC. The definition requires that it work. The Pfizer Jim Jones Jab doesn't work.
Your herd immunity doesn’t stop infections or the spread of a virus either.
Herd immunity does work. The virus cannot find a host to infect and then spread to others. This has been known for centuries.
Please document placebo shipments from Pfizer.
The link showed them.
Show the data from Sweden, Africa, and the Amish communities show that those who didn’t get the Jim Jones Jab had lower excess death rates.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/sweden-covid-and-excess-deaths-a-look-at-the-data/
Less than half of Australia and less than a third of the U.K.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/health/covid-africa-deaths.html
Even the Leftists at the New York Times admit to lower death rates in Africa.
T.B. Yoits wrote: “Neither do you nor the shills at the CDC. The definition requires that it work. The Pfizer Jim Jones Jab doesn’t work.”
You’re not qualified to define what is and isn’t a vaccine.
The vaccines work quite well.
T.B. Yoits wrote: “Herd immunity does work. The virus cannot find a host to infect and then spread to others. This has been known for centuries.”
You have just described vaccination which is superior to natural immunity since one does not have to become infected with the virus.
T.B. Yoits wrote: “The link showed them.”
No, it did not. Just more speculation. Proof requires analysis of the vaccines.
You do realize that any data out of Africa is suspect.
You do realize that the vaccinatio rate in Sweden is higher than the rate in the USA?
The Amish death rates were equal to or higher than the general population.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/claims-lower-amish-death-rates-210743325.html
Again, they're not vaccines, and Fauci, Walensky, and Pfizer were all exposed in their emails that they knew it DIDN'T work.
But you keep shilling.
T.B. Yoits wrote: “Again, they’re not vaccines, and Fauci, Walensky, and Pfizer were all exposed in their emails that they knew it DIDN’T work.”
You can make those unsubstantiated claims as long as you like but that doesn’t change the facts that these are effective vaccines.
T.B. Yoits wrote: “But you keep shilling.”
Name calling only proves you have no facts.
No, I present facts and you ignore them. That's how shilling works.
I'm a bit surprised someone is still paying you after two plus years of it.
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