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Bodycam footage shows moments before pregnant woman's fatal shooting by Ohio police officer
NBC News ^ | September 1, 2023 | Mirna Alsharif

Posted on 09/01/2023 3:14:54 PM PDT by grundle

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To: silverleaf

> Watch the video. <

I did. Either something is missing from that video or I’m getting older. I can’t tell where the cop who fired the shot was standing when he shot the driver.

If he was standing in front of the car, it’s self-defense.
If he was standing off to the side, it’s murder.

Side note: There were two cops on-scene. In the video, one cop is well on the side of car. Was he the one who fired the shot? Or was he the other cop?


21 posted on 09/01/2023 3:39:16 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Chewbarkah

But will we know if they found evidence of shoplifting?


22 posted on 09/01/2023 3:39:43 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (MURDER IS MYRDER)
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To: silverleaf
"Mom and baby girl - dead Over “ shoplifting”?"

Yeah; shop like they do in CA; free sh$t for everybody! NO arrests or prosecution, either.

Shoplifting is THEFT, probably caught on surveillance video, but it will be all about the catch-all "over-reaction by police", even though the perp, in this case, attempted to run over the officer with her car.

In Ohio, we have a Stand Your Ground environment, and no obligation to retreat, when attacked.

For the bleeding hearts, and "woke", it's ALWAYS they "dint do nuffin'" and "over-reaction by police", whenever laws are broken.

Time to start culling the herd, 3ven over fast-food-dis-satisfaction riots.......no repeat offenders, and a message to the law-breaking-way-of-lifers.

23 posted on 09/01/2023 3:43:01 PM PDT by traditional2 (lets go B*and*n)
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To: silverleaf

What part of ‘get out of the car’ do you not understand?

Shoppers, store owners and policemen are fed up with shoplifting……also called stealing


24 posted on 09/01/2023 3:43:50 PM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Well said, Sir.


25 posted on 09/01/2023 3:44:03 PM PDT by traditional2 (lets go B*and*n)
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To: Leaning Right

Looks like a shot through the windshield by the cop standing in front of the vehicle. What a world we have created...


26 posted on 09/01/2023 3:44:25 PM PDT by drwoof
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To: Leaning Right
The cop was stupid for standing in front of the suspect’s car.

’L’ing up on a suspect is procedure in many instances. One cop at the door, one 90 degrees away. Both are in good position to shoot if necessary and a perp has to divide his attention in different directions.

27 posted on 09/01/2023 3:44:47 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Leaning Right

Both cops had body cams. The one cop positioned himself in front of the car specifically to keep her from driving off with the other cops arm still in the window.

All she needed to do to stay alive was NOT try to run someone over.


28 posted on 09/01/2023 3:46:20 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: leaning conservative

He was. Directly in front with one hand on the hood.


29 posted on 09/01/2023 3:46:59 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Leaning Right
"If he was standing in front of the car, it’s self-defense. If he was standing off to the side, it’s murder."

BZZZZZZZZZZZtttttttt........WRONG

It's not murder to defend your partner's life, when he's being assaulted by a deadly weapon,.

Nice try.

30 posted on 09/01/2023 3:47:14 PM PDT by traditional2 (lets go B*and*n)
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To: Leaning Right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24qSmiSskRc


31 posted on 09/01/2023 3:47:37 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: dfwgator

LOL


32 posted on 09/01/2023 3:47:52 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: grundle

Maybe she was “tired”


33 posted on 09/01/2023 3:49:46 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: grundle

Polices seem to like that getting in front of the car. Any movement is an excuse to open fire for some of them.

If the goal is to prevent the car from moving, provide them with quick to deploy wheel stops. No one, cop or perp will be in danger if the car is immobilized.


34 posted on 09/01/2023 3:50:55 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes lwa, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: grundle

Nothing ‘tragic’ about FAFO...

The perp made a deliberate decision to drive her vehicle into a police officer, after being lawfully ordered to exit the car.

Is there a word for ‘consequences’ in ebonics?


35 posted on 09/01/2023 3:51:24 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: silverleaf

I tend to agree with you. It’s not like they didn’t know who she was, where she lived, and what she drove. She wasn’t “getting away” with anything.

While I appreciate them taking a stand against shoplifting…this response was WAY over the top. Standing in front of a car like that is not a good plan. Even if you are pulling a weapon on a scene that did not seem to call for it.

There might be a bunch of extenuating circumstances, prior encounters, or stuff we did not see in the video. That is why they do investigations. However, I doubt that drawing your pistol on a shoplifter is part of their policy.


36 posted on 09/01/2023 3:55:08 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Dead Corpse

assault with a deadly woman.

FAFO


37 posted on 09/01/2023 3:55:32 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: grundle

I go with the cops on this one. Should have just gotten out of the car. If the cops were out of line, she would have had lawyers jumping at the chance to represent her.


38 posted on 09/01/2023 3:56:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: traditional2

> It’s not murder to defend your partner’s life, when he’s being assaulted by a deadly weapon <

Well, sure. No argument there. My concern relates to the “being assaulted” part. If one of the cops was in front of the car the instant the bullet was fired, then it was a good shoot. It doesn’t matter which cop fired the shot.

But if the cop who had been struck by the car had already moved off to the side, then he was no longer in danger. And so it was a bad shoot.

As I noted earlier, I can’t tell from the video which of the two possibilities it was.


39 posted on 09/01/2023 3:56:29 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: silverleaf

And she could have chosen not to steal!

I know, I know, “she was only shoplifting.”

Think along the same lines as Rudy Giullani’s broken windows scenario.

This is how these $950.00 thefts began.

It starts by ignoring or not arresting for the little things.


40 posted on 09/01/2023 3:59:44 PM PDT by justme4now (Our Right's are God given and I don't need permission from politicians or courts to exercise them!)
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