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The Whole Idea Behind Homeless Advocacy Is To Not Solve The Problem
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 2 Aug, 2023 | Francis Menton

Posted on 09/04/2023 5:58:45 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: Qwapisking

I met a young man who was homeless in Louisville. He went to a couple shelters on very cold night. Each told him they were full, and he couldn’t stay. He begged to sleep on the floor in the entrance, or anywhere inside. Still no. He said he realized then that homeless advocates are a racket.


21 posted on 09/04/2023 6:32:37 AM PDT by healy61 (.)
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To: Qwapisking

I met a young man who was homeless in Louisville. He went to a couple shelters on very cold night. Each told him they were full, and he couldn’t stay. He begged to sleep on the floor in the entrance, or anywhere inside. Still no. He said he realized then that homeless advocates are a racket.


22 posted on 09/04/2023 6:32:37 AM PDT by healy61 (.)
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To: healy61

My apologies. Don’t know how that happened.


23 posted on 09/04/2023 6:34:44 AM PDT by healy61 (.)
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To: Mark17
At least Snidely Whiplash had the integrity to admit the evil of his deeds...unlike homeless advocates (who really do advocate homelessness, don't they).


24 posted on 09/04/2023 6:35:54 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: MtnClimber

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25 posted on 09/04/2023 6:37:12 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: MtnClimber

The vast majority of homelessness is a result of mental illness, not money or a lack of housing.

In the past a lot of these people would be institutionalized...

During the 19th and early 20th century they had ‘poor, or workhouses’ for those unable to hold or find a job. The industrial revolution resulted in hundreds of thousands being unemployed and unemployable because their former occupations had become redundant and unnecessary. And people who had obvious mental issues were sent of to mental asylums, the only place capable of dealing with them.

The methods and conditions were horrible, but the net effect was cleaning up the streets. By the med 20th century, pretty much everybody could obtain a job, so the lack of employment dissipated.

Mental health issues increased, so much so that institutions were overcrowded and many of them were old and needed replacing... The result was a relaxing of the criteria for institutionalizing people with mental health conditions by the ‘experts’.

They decided that letting these lunatics run free and clear of the system was a better idea than dealing with them, and in the end it made their jobs a lot easier. Thus, the mess we find ourselves in today.

Millions of people who should be institutionalized are free to wig out in a way they see fit... And sometimes they do it right in front everybody... And if you’re a very unlucky person, they may be wigging out right in front of your residence on a daily basis. The fact is, despite the annoyance and embarrassment they cause, most of them are completely harmless... Meaning that they won’t stab you, or try to harm others... But every now and then one of them will go full tilt and kill somebody.

Until the ‘experts’ decide to start doing their jobs and taking care of these tortured souls... That’s the way it’s going to be. Like it or not.


26 posted on 09/04/2023 6:39:34 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: MtnClimber

“It is an industry for the left.”

It fits right in with the Marxist left ideology of “You will own nothing and you’ll be happy”. It’s a lie, of course... like everything the Marxist elitists espouse. But it’s a lie they live by. They don’t want anyone... except themselves, of course.... owning their own home, driving gasoline-powered cars, and being financially independent. They want everyone ELSE (the peons, the masses) on foot, unable to afford their own home, and dependent upon “Government”, the leftist god, for every thing. And if they have to provide “happy” drugs to keep those masses compliant, that’s coming, as well.

The left’s whole agenda is purely greed-driven and based on the “more for me, none for you” theme. They want us eating insects and fake meat while they dine on only the finest cuisine, per usual. Why don’t they just cut to the chase and go ahead with their ultimate “Soylent green” goals? We know where they’re going with this. At least, some of us know.


27 posted on 09/04/2023 6:39:45 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: RoosterRedux
unlike homeless advocates (who really do advocate homelessness, don't they)

Yes, they certainly do.

28 posted on 09/04/2023 6:40:22 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: MtnClimber

To create a problem and then never solve it is the democrat way. It’s a great way to get votes and tax dollars out of the bleeding hearts and weak minded sheep.

I recall years ago it was theorized that Bush II got the Afghan and Iraq wars going to give himself a legacy. And it was a winner that kept going for 20 years.

It’s not unique, I’ve watched people do this at the work place to better their appraisals and/or get promotions.


29 posted on 09/04/2023 6:43:10 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: 9YearLurker

“But there will come a time when that same population is considered among the most expendable to those same planners.”

Just as expendable as the prior landowners in Lahaina.


30 posted on 09/04/2023 7:03:24 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: MtnClimber

“It’s an industry of the left.”

Indeed. Big cities have entire departments employing hundreds if not a thousand people to supposedly address the problem, and the cities receive millions upon millions of dollars in federal aid.

I can tell you from first-hand experience that most of that money (over 50%) is spent on salaries and benefits and another 20%-25% is spent on other things unrelated to homelessness. At the end of the day only 25% - 30% actually goes towards food, housing, etc. for the homeless.

Cities complain about it but will not work to fix it because there is far too much “free” money.


31 posted on 09/04/2023 7:06:00 AM PDT by Murder of Crows
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To: healy61

It bears repeating.


32 posted on 09/04/2023 7:07:35 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: MtnClimber

I have been going to Israel, working on excavations and other endeavors since 1980. My first visit to the Jericho Refugee Camp was in 1982, where I met some of the leaders of the UNRWA as well as Palestinians. My last visit was 2014, and the people running the camps are the children of the people I first met. The camp has not changed at all in the nearly 40 years I have observed it, after soaking up hundreds of millions of Euros and Dollars. However, there are huge villas that have been built to the East by about 3 miles, which overlook these man made slums. That is the purpose of the UNRWA - loot those rich Western countries. The principle is the same in our left run cities here in the U.S.


33 posted on 09/04/2023 7:31:49 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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To: MtnClimber

the problem is spiritual

they need Jesus, they need to change their heart, they need the spiritual rebirth

they are killing themselves with drugs and alcohol and do not want to change.

I am already in, for the last 7 years,a homeless ministry, and I know this first hand.’’

almost none want to sober up, and refuse to go to long term housing if they have to unless it is winter, the cold shelter will take them in, but the treatment programs are what they avoid.

I have given awqy over 200 Bibles by now...only 2 ever went to church, only 3 ever went to the long term mission, only 4 ever prayed with me to get saved, one of them got on a bus, never saw her again, the others just went back to their drugs.

it is depressing to see so many reject salvation and then get huffy if I dont feed them each time I see them.

alcohol and meth are killers.


34 posted on 09/04/2023 8:18:37 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: MtnClimber

Over half the homeless are mentally ill. Pass an ordinance no more loitering or living on the street and reinstate public “mental health” institutions. Two options are either they can move on or agree to an evaluation and potential involuntary commitment to a mental institution to get treatment. Because of the nature of the occupants, these institutions are rarely pretty...but neither is the mentally ill living on the streets and threatening the public pretty. Those are the hard choices.
The rest are addicts. Two choices. Move on or get taken to a rehab facility. If they are encamped on the street after rehab. One choice, move on.


35 posted on 09/04/2023 8:19:06 AM PDT by chuckee ( )
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To: healy61

not always true, they may have been full to capacity, the cold brings the street people to shelter, lots of trouble inside if the number is high, if he got there early, it might have been easier.

also, was he telling you the truth?
was he sober when he went to the shelter?
if you are high, they might not let you in.


36 posted on 09/04/2023 8:21:36 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: Qwapisking

Trump nods


37 posted on 09/04/2023 8:23:32 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: MtnClimber
"Money may not be the answer to the homelessness problem, which never improves no matter how much is spent. However, it is clearly the answer for the advocates, who are pocketing money by the hundreds of millions. Remember, of that $240.6 million mentioned in Reynolds’s piece, exactly zero goes to the homeless individuals. All of it goes to the service providers."

This.
38 posted on 09/04/2023 8:51:09 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: RaceBannon

Correct. Another significant factor is the destruction of the nuclear family with one man, one woman bonded for life raising children under one roof. When I was nine years old, my family moved from a very stable area where life was mostly like Leave it to Beaver/The Andy Griffith Show to one tortured by addictions and divorce. I’d never even HEARD of divorce until then. I noticed, in fifth grade, that the kids whose parents were “getting a divorce” or were already divorced seemed lost. And they were.


39 posted on 09/04/2023 9:11:10 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: MtnClimber

Every Business needs 2 things.

Product

Customers

In this case the product is “The Homeless Individuals”
The “Customers” are those who give to Charities and Local Governments.

The Business Owners are the “Homeless Advocates”.

Finally every “Organization” be it private or public has One Goal.

GROWTH

This is never going to go away.


40 posted on 09/04/2023 9:27:50 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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