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The Death of Informed Consent
American Thinker ^ | 7 Sep, 2023 | Stella Paul

Posted on 09/07/2023 5:48:55 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: zipper

Thanks for that post. Good information that the medical establishment tried to memory hole.


41 posted on 09/18/2023 10:06:44 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Jane Long

Thank you. There are times it still brings me outrage. I know it was my brother’s time to die, but there is no excuse for how none of us were allowed to see him in person to say our goodbyes, and especially my SIL and her kids.


42 posted on 09/18/2023 10:13:45 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: FamiliarFace

Just terrible.

We have a family member who went to ER for UNRELATED to China Virus issues.....was of course *tested* ... and, sent to a China Virus wing....without being able to communicate w/s...no phone charger, etc.

We had to call the doctors office, nonstop, when we found out (from nurses station) they were about to give them Remdisivir! We, thankfully, were able to stop that....and, our family member, thankfully, recovered within a few days and came home.

Just sickening what they put families through.


43 posted on 09/18/2023 10:26:12 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is tnow fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Jane Long

I tried my best to get my family to listen about Remdesivir, but it wouldn’t have mattered anyway. The doctors wouldn’t listen to them. That was their protocol at the hospital. They knew it would blow out his kidneys.

I’m glad your family member was able to leave alive.


44 posted on 09/18/2023 11:03:31 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: MtnClimber; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Infectious Disease ping - The Death of Informed Consent

(From the Article): "COVID exposed the murderous ugliness running rampant in the medical industry.
The stories will send a chill down your spine."

Here's what NEVER happened in the hospital during COVID (Emphasis Mine):
a doctor sat down next to a patient and said, "You have a choice.
We can give you Remdesivir, which killed 53% of the patients in an Ebola trial.
It was so bad the trial had to be shut down.
And you'll notice here in Remdesivir's fact sheet, it says, 'Not a lot of people have used Remdesivir.
Serious and unexpected side effects may happen.'
Or we can give you ivermectin, a safe and effective drug that's been successfully used for decades, and send you home.
Which do you prefer?"

"The reason that conversation never happened is that it would have cost the hospital too much money.
If the hospital gave you ivermectin and sent you home, the federal government paid the hospital $3,200.
If the hospital gave you Remdesivir, the federal government paid the entire hospital bill, plus a 20% bonus.
So the hospital executives' choice was to receive $3,200 or $500,000, which was the average hospital bill.
No contest.
Patients were going to get Remdesivir — whether they wanted it or not."
(Article Continues)...

45 posted on 09/18/2023 11:39:36 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: FamiliarFace

I am sorry to hear about your brother. May you have peace knowing he is in a better place now.

SO many families went through impossible frustration with the medical authorities, who continue to deny responsibility for the massive number of deaths that occurred as a direct result of their malfeasance.

We still have many battles ahead. “The Death Of Informed Consent” is more than a past issue. We were entitled to, but never got, the true information, and we weren’t asked for consent. That’s how it will be from now on if we don’t rise up and fight violations of our human rights under the Nuremburg code.

It’s about our future, our children’s future, and the future of the human race.


46 posted on 09/18/2023 11:46:28 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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zipper : " .. ivermectin HAD to be disparaged for the EUA to be approved -- if the government had favorably recognized alternative-treatment effectiveness (HCQ too),
the EUA could not be FDA approved, under law.
Billions of dollars were at stake for the sale of C19 "vaccines",
let alone their own protocols for other competing treatments (Remdesivir, etc.)..."

Thank you for your post #36.
This financial collusion between government and hospital administrators should be identified as a felonious crime against humanity.
This wasn't even a "Bait and Switch" as there was no other alternative under EUA (Emergency Use Act)
- the decision to employ the EUA while knowing that there were other treatment protocols, available led to needless numbers of deaths.
There was a need for the Nuremberg Trials for crimes against humanity - as was with this decision to deny alternative treatments.
When you think about this situation, it literally meets the definition of Fascist behavior.

47 posted on 09/18/2023 11:56:16 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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The reason that conversation never happened is that it would have cost the hospital too much money.

True! They also couldn't consider ivermectin or HCQ since that would have nullified their ability to get the EUA approved for the "vaccine". So even though off-label use is common, and ivermectin is absolutely one of the safest drugs in existence (over a billion doses over 35 years given) hospitals stuck 100 percent to the CDC protocol of separating the patient from their loved ones, sticking a tube down their throat, and administering Remdesivir, a known dangerous drug. ANYTHING that deviated from this protocol put their licenses in jeopardy.

I met a nurse that quit her job because she sat in the administrative meetings at her hospital during the epidemic -- the administrator kept pushing them to put more patients on the protocol, even though it was plain that following the CDC protocol spelled doom for many, if not most patients. She finally couldn't deal with the guilt and quit.

As you said, THE STORIES WILL CHILL YOUR SPINE.

Words worth repeating.

48 posted on 09/18/2023 11:57:52 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Thanks, I didn’t see #47 because I was composing my response — needless to say we are in total agreement!


49 posted on 09/18/2023 11:59:49 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: zipper

Thank you. It’s been 2 years already. I miss him. He was a very kind and funny man. Not a mean bone is his body. It just wasn’t in his nature. He did what he could do every single day to make someone else’s life less painful, and more happy, even, and maybe especially, a perfect stranger’s day. Little things, that many don’t even notice. One of his favorite songs was “High Hopes” by Sinatra. It was something my brother took to heart.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Buq40brGDTY

I intend to keep fighting for our human rights and dignity. So much was forcibly taken from us.


50 posted on 09/18/2023 12:11:16 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: FamiliarFace

💞💞


51 posted on 09/18/2023 12:27:17 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is tnow fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: FamiliarFace

Good one, brought a smile. That says a lot about his character.


52 posted on 09/18/2023 1:24:59 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: MtnClimber
Fauxi and Birx should be put on trial for the flagrantly false propaganda they spread during the early days of the scamdemic!
53 posted on 09/18/2023 1:30:23 PM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives: Ban Gun Free Zones)
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To: MtnClimber

I would say that informed consent was dead 5 to 10 years ago with the handing out of hormones to anyone that said they were “born in the wrong body”.


54 posted on 09/18/2023 1:33:53 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve
I would say that informed consent was dead 5 to 10 years ago with the handing out of hormones to anyone that said they were “born in the wrong body”.

Hey, I was born in the wrong body. I can't sing worth a damn. And I wish I could cut a few seconds off my 100 yard dash time.

55 posted on 09/18/2023 1:36:21 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

So.... Has anyone found a reliable, trustworthy source for ivermectin yet?

I would have to try the pill as the *horse paste* has too many ingredients in it I would react to.


56 posted on 09/18/2023 2:02:26 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; FamiliarFace

This is new, from Dr. Makis’ substack.

During the epidemic articles and studies favorable to ivermectin were scrubbed from the internet.

Turns out ivermectin is a miracle drug in many applications, even treating cancer.

https://makismd.substack.com/p/ivermectin-and-cancer-it-has-at-least


57 posted on 10/02/2023 9:28:44 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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Zipper: " This is new, from Dr. Makis’ substack."
During the epidemic articles and studies favorable to ivermectin were scrubbed from the internet.
Turns out ivermectin is a miracle drug in many applications, even treating cancer.

" https://makismd.substack.com/p/ivermectin-and-cancer-it-has-at-least "

I went to the substack link listed above
Medically fantastic, there needs to be continued research that needs to be done on Ivermectin, with clinical trials.
Little wonder why the FDA/CDC/NIH/Fauci cabal intentionally overlooked its medical application for covid and other diseases.
Now if only the media would consider ivermectin as a medical application, rather than following the Pharma cartel of cancelling,
and considering its attributes, we might get true control over covid and other diseases.
True science should consider the possibilities of other alternatives, rather than putting this medication in the "sin bin", without any consideration.

(My Opinion): At least look at the (free) substack link above.

58 posted on 10/02/2023 3:24:48 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( )
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I would still love to know where I could get some Ivernmectin.


59 posted on 10/02/2023 4:13:42 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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