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Weekly Garden Thread - September 30-October 6, 2023 [The Science of Fall Colors Edition]
September 30,2023 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 09/30/2023 5:32:13 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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41 posted on 09/30/2023 9:30:59 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: MomwithHope

Supposedly, there IS something to it! I found a Wooly Bear that was 100% BLACK a few years back. Turns out those are the larvae of the Leopard Moth; never knew that.

Supposedly Wooly Bears can stay in their larvae form for up to 20 years before they become the Isabella Tiger Moth, (Pyrrharctia isabella) but I don’t know what triggers the transformation.

Interesting critters.


42 posted on 09/30/2023 9:39:54 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: FrozenAssets
FA; OK, This is your weather link:

https://www.weather.gov/afg/

Fairbanks, Sep 30, 30F right now and a lot of sloppy weather forcast the rest of the week. Fun! (Assuming you are somewhere with in Three Hundred miles of Fairbanks so for all purposes close :) Your winter has begun!

Something to consider for your Alaskan long days summer: (I have not grown this so can't give you more than the picture at the link!)

Sapporo Giant Cabbage

43 posted on 09/30/2023 11:30:28 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Thanks for the info. Can you tell me what the (increasing) sprawling strawberries only produce fruit once a season, and which is early summer for a short time.

As for self propagation, I will definitely do that, I mean to the plants, while humans need two (male and female, in marriage, regardless of the gender confused).

44 posted on 09/30/2023 3:21:40 PM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey H)
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To: small farm girl
Copper likely saved their life...hardest part with this year was the nonstop rain washing your protectant off.

Actually I do not think it helped much. May be best to try Disease-resistant tomato varieties

Lots of home gardeners have told me they are just tossing everything in to the compost, sounds like they were bacterial spot or anthracnose out of the party :

I think it is septoria, but in any case it should not get in the compost unless heated a lot.

45 posted on 09/30/2023 3:25:49 PM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey H)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The canning is all put away & in an orderly fashion, so I can find what I need, when I need it! I’m still having a hard time actually believing I found a place for it all.

Got the mowing I had to do for the company done - took 3 hours. To the East were the blackest, ugliest clouds while to the West, blue skies & a bit of sunshine was trying to break through .... it was a ‘weather war’. What I cut smells like hay, with just a hint of wild onion. I was so tired, I found myself dozing off on the mower - only the 2nd time I remember ever doing that! Last night, I was up until 1:00, then up at 5 this morning ... I should get more sleep tonight.


46 posted on 09/30/2023 3:30:53 PM PDT by Qiviut (To the living, we owe respect. To the dead, we owe the truth (Voltaire) $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Fantastic is that growing tomatoes in Hawaii has a longer growing season and plants that can last a few seasons.”

Learn something everyday. Planting tomatoes today. They can last a few seasons? I’ll be testing that outcome!

Only time I miss Michigan is July - October. Miss the fall the most.


47 posted on 09/30/2023 4:18:53 PM PDT by dakine
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To: dakine

I love Fall most of all. And then Spring. Summer is WORK and Winter means ICE. Ugh! I DO like Winter sports though (I love to snowshoe and ride our Vintage 1984 Arctic Cats - His & Hers) and you can’t beat ice fishing. Not sure why, but fish through the ice always taste better to me. ;)

When I lived south of San Diego, I found gardening year-round to be a PITA. And since it was ‘Sunny and 72’ every. damn. day. you couldn’t even GROW tomatoes - it never got warm enough for them.

I’ve been to Kauai and absolutely loved it. We visited some of the local Farmer’s Markets and the tomatoes were really tasty. :)


48 posted on 09/30/2023 6:39:16 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Qiviut

OK, you’ve inspired me now, LOL!

Beau will be home on Monday so my current ‘plan’ is to have everything on the dining room table - including what I still had left over from last season - to make it look like I was really, REALLY busy while he was gone hunting for a month.

I WAS really REALLY busy raising two new pups for him and all the other million things there are to do around here every day!

Yeah, I get a little cranky this time of year; either NOTHING HAPPENS or EVERYTHING HAPPENS AT ONCE!

But, that’s pretty much LIFE. :)


49 posted on 09/30/2023 6:45:04 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: MomwithHope

Thanks for this. I’ll have to check next time I see one.


50 posted on 09/30/2023 6:51:02 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Hi, late to the thread. I’m in Connecticut visiting friends. The trees are starting to change and it’s very pretty here. Rained all day yesterday but today was much better. We went to a friend’s shower and the theme was a garden party because she loves everything about gardening.

There was a garden knowledge game, and whoever had the most correct answers won a prize. There were a lot of good gardeners there, so I was very, very surprised when I found out I won! The prize was some nice herbal scented hand lotion. Perfect for me.


51 posted on 09/30/2023 7:19:57 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: FamiliarFace

Congrats, sounds like a fun idea for a shower.


52 posted on 10/01/2023 5:10:06 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: daniel1212

They’ve made some goid breakthroughs with disease resistance...nothing for septoria yet. We keep everything covered with copper and oxidate, but we have access to a few chemicals with “look back” that can actually stop damage if caught early enough...but it’s always best to prevent it in the first place right? Anyway, did you get the same Noah’s deluge the other day as we did in Central MA?


53 posted on 10/01/2023 5:39:26 AM PDT by small farm girl
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To: FamiliarFace

Winner Winner! :)

I threw a 40th Birthday Garden Tea Party and it was great fun. Mom was the Costume Mistress for a local theater troop at the time, so she provided fancy hats and gloves for everyone.

I did one on my 50th, but on my 60th we were all locked away from one another...in a supposedly FREE country. :(

Hoping to make it to 70. That’ll be a huge blow-out! :)


54 posted on 10/01/2023 5:46:04 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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Yay! Kale!


55 posted on 10/01/2023 6:37:45 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: All
Greenhouse/She-Shed Goals!


56 posted on 10/01/2023 6:38:55 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Testing the 24 VDC gearmotor that will open/close the high tunnel sides.

Lifts a concrete block(40 lbs) with very little strain.

Lifts two concrete blocks with considerable strain, too much imho.

All but the gearmotor and $15 of hardware/cable is stuff I grabbed from the scrap pile at work. None of it accept the gearmotor is permanent but it lets me know that my guess-timations for power/dimensions/speed etc are all good to go and the motor will work. My limit for EMT conduit that will be the frames for the drop down sides is 3/4" which will weigh 36.8 lbs. Call it 40 lbs with plastic film and hardware. One inch EMT would be 53.6 lbs plus and would probably work but I'd rather not load the motor any more than I need to.

An observation I had is that the gearmotor spins a little after power is cut off and it pulls another 1/2" to 3/4" of cable in. I'm going to have a limit switch to cut power when the side is all the way closed. Rather than try to time things just right for that 1/2" to 3/4" run-on, I'll add an extension spring to the cable.

$25 per gearmotor plus cable, different spool/drum setup, springs and bearings and I'll have about $350 into the sides when all's said and done. Motorized and automated.

57 posted on 10/01/2023 8:25:45 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: FRiends

Top Places to See Fall Foliage in All 50 States

https://smokymountains.com/gatlinburg/blog/top-places-see-fall-foliage-50-states/

In Wisconsin, ‘Potawatomi is Where You Wanna Be!’ :)

Beau is returning from Bear Camp 2023 tomorrow and he’s already been enjoying the fall colors. He’s in North Central Wisconsin, just south of Lake Superior. And he’ll get to enjoy the turning colors all over again when he gets back home. ;)

Right now we have some Maples turning orange, Black Walnut turning yellow, lots of Sumac (purple-red) and the Virginia Creeper (that climbs up everything!) is turning bright red. We’re off to a good start!


58 posted on 10/01/2023 10:31:04 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pollard

Once you have everything set and planted, you’ll have months OFF in the summertime!

All of this is way above my Pay Grade. I’m a shovel, hoe and hose kinda girl when it comes to the garden.

But, it looks like you’re having a blast and learning a lot and that’s all that matters. :)


59 posted on 10/01/2023 10:33:44 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
shovel, hoe and hose

Only that last one can be automated so I'll still have plenty to do. Main thing is opening sides/vents when I'm not here. Irrigation is easy and I figured out how to do it on both controllers(automation brain/computer).

Designing and building things is definitely fun for me.

Saving a bit of money too over buying four each of one of these.


60 posted on 10/01/2023 11:39:14 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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