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The decline of the American mall has left just 700 still standing. Soon there may be just 150 left.
Business Insider ^ | 10/12/22 | Tim Levin

Posted on 10/16/2023 6:58:40 PM PDT by DallasBiff

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To: DallasBiff

Also, crime studies were done at the time that showed most shoppers left shortly before four hours because mall’s had scary bathrooms at the end of long hallways - places where many shoppers were robbed, disgusted with filth and/or gangs and/or bullied.

Turned out if mall bathrooms hired attendants and kept the places clean shoppers spent more and the malls thrived. Short sighted owners did the mall in.


141 posted on 10/17/2023 10:51:56 AM PDT by GOPJ ( FBI goons told Hillary naming reprogramming camps Auschwit Birkenau would shut cult members up?)
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To: Round Earther

They had stores. They closed them because of the reputation of the Eastern District of Texas for speedy resolution of patent disputes. When the Supreme Court tightened the jurisdictional rules for patent cases, Apple wanted to make sure they could take full advantage of the opportunity.


142 posted on 10/17/2023 11:43:18 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: mjustice

One of the malls in Dallas turned into a data center. Another was planned, but when that fell through it was bulldozed and turned into big box stores. Another in a suburb is being torn down and developed into high density residential (future slums). It looks like they are keeping one of the wings for retail. One of the anchor stores planned to stay, but bankruptcy took care of that.


143 posted on 10/17/2023 11:47:02 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: mjustice

One of the malls in Dallas turned into a data center. Another was planned, but when that fell through it was bulldozed and turned into big box stores. Another in a suburb is being torn down and developed into high density residential (future slums). It looks like they are keeping one of the wings for retail. One of the anchor stores planned to stay, but bankruptcy took care of that.


144 posted on 10/17/2023 11:47:02 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: FreedomPoster

Certainly all of the above. The fee is heaven. Sams club Mexico saved me bigly. First ran into a Mexican walmart bathroom, wrong answer. Next door Sams, was clean and safe.


145 posted on 10/17/2023 6:46:32 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: PCPOET7

“the way to save the mall is to have memberships like Costco. most people don’t shop at them anymore because the experience is not a good one. to many gang members with no money walk around in the malls. a membership would keep out a lot of the troublemakers.”

An entry fee refundable with a purchase receipt, like some malls do with parking.


146 posted on 10/17/2023 7:48:40 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Secret Agent Man

Not exactly. The tax structures were changed during malls booming years the tax structures were such that you literally could not lose money building a mall…

As such far more were built than could ever financially be sustained once those laws were changed
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147 posted on 10/17/2023 7:54:16 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

You’re mixing two different issues.

Yes, both affected malls, but they are 2 different issues and both have an impact.

The problems some malls experienced was geographic oversaturation. Generally the older malls were the ones hit harder and were most negatively impacted by newer, larger, more modern malls.

But my point also is a major factor in the decline of malls.


148 posted on 10/17/2023 8:49:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: cherry

Agreed. I drive past a large mall several times a week and it never occurs to me to stop and go in.


149 posted on 10/17/2023 8:55:24 PM PDT by gitmo
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To: rxh4n1

agree. the idea of a fee is just to keep out those not shopping.


150 posted on 10/18/2023 12:16:23 AM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: Responsibility2nd

For whatever reason your link doesn’t seem to be working. This should: https://deadmalls.com/index.html

Deadmalls website hasn’t been updated since 2022. Their Facebook page has a recent posting from Nov 2023:

https://www.facebook.com/deadmalls/?ref=embed_page


151 posted on 12/24/2023 9:26:12 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: DallasBiff
Great Movie: Chopping Mall.


152 posted on 12/24/2023 9:36:34 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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