Macgregor: We need to protect Israel from itself. Tell them: 'No'

Twitter/X ^ | Oct 31 | Douglas Macgregor

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The hater RandFan is "worried" about the innocent.

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And yet babies have their heads cut off while alive or or burned alive through saline abortions everyday in your state. Where is your anger?

None of this would have happened if Israel had chosen to defend their borders.

[Political Junkie Too]

I think we will see the front against Israel in the region coalesce into a real Military alliance against Israel.

This is the part that bothers me, but not in the way that you might think.

I think that we (the United States) have put too much emphasis on 1) proportion response, and 2) what the "Arab Street" thinks.

Regarding #1, the United States, in some way, is probably still suffering a guilt at being the only nation (still) to use a nuclear weapon against an enemy in a time of war. There is no proportional response to that, other than that the nukes are stronger now and more plentiful now.

The admonition against Israel to be proportional in their retaliation for crimes against humanity towards them is really the USA promising itself that it won't use nuclear weapons again. However, the USA has pulled so far back from that red line that they won't even fight conventional wars with overwhelming conventional force anymore. The concept of decisive battles and decisive wins is now foreign to us, and therefore, to anyone else who has the strength to do the same against their own enemies.

It's a stigma that we have to finally rid ourselves of. We, as a nation through our leaders, have to say that we've proven ourselves since 1945 that we prefer peace, but our strength means nothing if we're afraid to use it decisively to pursue peaceful ends. Anything short of decisive use of our overwhelming strength only emboldens our enemies to keep provoking, to keep winning incremental gain after incremental gain until they achieve their victories despite us.

This brings me to #2. The "Arab Street" is a bogeyman that the left created since the Iran hostage crisis to paralyze the United States into inaction in the Middle East. Our leaders keep convincing themselves to do nothing decisive because it will "inflame the Arab Street," or now that it will "coalesce the region into a real Military alliance against Israel." Is this really true, or is this just another bogeyman to talk us out of acting decisively? In 1979, we were told that whatever we did would become "recruitment posters" for the Islamic Jihadists, and so we did nothing.

I think the true "Arab Street" is tired of the constant fighting, and they're equally tired of being told that they only say that privately but that publicly they have to support their Arab neighbors. The Trump "Abraham Accords" was a very public peace plan between Israel, the UAE, and Bahrain that belies the notion that Israel's neighbors don't want peace.

Israel and Egypt signed a peace treaty in 1979 as the Camp David Accords, and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat was assassinated by the Egyptian Islamic Jihad because of it three years later. The radical Islamists didn't want peace.

In 1994, Israel and Jordan signed a peace treaty, followed in 1995 with the Oslo Accords with the Palestine Liberation Organization, and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated because of it by a radical Israeli law student. The Israeli student was angered by giving away the Gaza Strip to the PLO.

And now, the October 7 attack by Hamas in Israel is said to have been done to stop the Abraham Accords from going forward.

The only real "Arab Street" uprising that occurred was the so-called "Arab Spring" uprisings that began in 2011, led to the resignation of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, and ended with the assassination of Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi. This was an entirely Arab uprising that had nothing to do with Israel or the United States (except for political tampering by the Obama administration).

So I think the idea that "the front against Israel in the region will coalesce into a real Military alliance against Israel" is likely to be more political inertia than reality, 20th century thinking, and not the reality of today. It's the radical terrorist groups that are inciting the violence, and Israel's modernized neighbors don't want those influences inside their own countries or they'd have taken in the Palestinians decades ago. It's only the throwback countries like Iran and their proxy states like Yemen and Lebanon that are pushing regional conflicts to destabalize peace with Israel.

I think that places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, the UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, and other wealthy neighboring states want to see the radical Islamists stopped and would be happy to see Israel do it once and for all. THIS is something they may have to say privately so that the religious fanatical Jihadists don't turn on them, but I don't think the bogeyman of the "Arab Street" coalescing against Israel is a real threat.

-PJ