Posted on 10/30/2023 10:59:52 PM PDT by RandFan
Israel has never said it was going to exterminate any population and you know it.
Poor choice of words.
I should say expel/level Gaza or going overboard
He’s right in that it will cause anger and resentment.
Turkey were saying they will get involved, etc.
Well, what he is describing is exactly who will be involved and what will happen in what the Holy Bible describes in Ezekiel 38-39, and no mere human can stop what our Sovereign Lord has Written and has in store.
God Himself will destroy the kingdoms / nations who descend upon Israel like a cloud to cover the land and leave but a sixth of them, but Israel will be divinely Protected by The Mighty One of Israel’s Hand.
We were a strong country under Reagan, but he also urged constraint when Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982.
I was disturbed by Turkey’s statements the other day imagine if they come under pressure to get involved
There are many other countries in that position
I do believe they Israel have every right to defend themselves and seek retribution but yes, restraint should be a watch word
“ But US tried to destroy Vietcong and Taliban”
Not true.
“ and are far more powerful”
Who? You’re claiming Hamas is more powerful than Vietnamese Communists or Taliban?
What an ass. That’s what I think. Not to destroy Hamas is to destroy Israel.
“ He has another view. He’s entitled to it.”
He gets more extreme with each statement.
His statements don’t exist in a vacuum either.
Vietcong and Taliban were an ocean away from us. Hamas is next door to them. The VC and Taliban were not an existential threat to us. Hamas is an existential threat to Israel.
It was a different world then.
What I’m saying is it might not be feasible to destroy/eliminate Hamas or it could take many years and be extremally unpalatable
I’ve given you examples of Vietcong and Taliban as stubborn enemies
I’m ambivalent
Israel needs to break Hamas and try to stay with purity of arms logic
Hard to do
They have no choice but to truly smash Hamas now
Bigger problem is you still have 2 million crazy Palestinians in refugee camp on your borders you’re stuck with
Israel owns them
look around nobody else wants them
Desperate people with horrid leadership elected with a plurality less of than even Lincoln got
So back to mowing the lawn and expecting more terrorism at some point
and Israeli reprisals which don’t always have such great optics like in 2018 when palis tried their version of the green march and it worked out not so good for either side
If I were betting I’d call this a forlorn hope for peace ever
Only solution I see
The world takes enough palis everywhere in small numbers so they can’t be too strong anywhere to gather steam
Keep minimum in Israel and make it all one state solution and Israel maintains steady proportional majority as Jewish homeland
And Jewish women there start having large families
I don’t think two state is viable and there’s the settlers on west bank
If you don’t do something at some point in twenty years there will be 4-5 million of these maniacs festering in Gaza
And no amount of walls and robotic machine guns and control is going to work
And Israel will be scorned for it
The developing world has it in for us in case nobody has figured that out yet
We’ve let too many of these primitive cultures in
And Israel is more at the red hot center of it facing a less developed lower iq peoples and more absolutist in goals
Does anyone here really think containing them in camps ad infinitum will prevail
This last atrocity is horrid but it’s just one of many since it all started and neither side is guiltless though the Arabs are far worse no question of that
But who’s excesses get most attention
You guess it
The white folks
And their blatant anti semitism all but ignored except America where Israel gets better press than anywhere else
Israel is right to ignore cease fire calls
But some humanitarian outreach won’t hurt and might help world optics
The BIG picture is that all muslims want all the Jews dead, then for all Christians and every other “infidel” to submit to islam or die.
That is the BIG picture.
Let’s leave that Russia gave the green light for this, back in the spring.
So if Israel sacrifices a thousand or so of its people every few years, that will satisfy the latest muslim gang at war with them and they can have peace with all muslims? Would we in the US be ok with such an arrangement? Is this any different from when children were sacrificed to appease the “gods”?
I’m not calling for a cease fire or anything like that
I am NOT a lefty
They do have a right to defend themselves and carry out this operation.
I just dont want them to overdo it and cause widespread anger
Wardaddy also makes some good points there.
The bigger picture is that McGregor is a snake.
What kind of low life tries to guilt trip a Nation into restraint in a situation like this?
Restraint was what Hamas should have been forced to exert. The Nations that are angry need a lesson in acceptable behavior and consequences. The only shame is that America has no President and has reduced gravitas under the pretender. There is no compromise with that kind of evil, either accept death or eliminate the evil. Arab countries won’t even take the refugees but stood by and used the situation to try & eliminate Israel.
It’s not your decision or McGregor’s. It’s Israels because they were attacked. No one should second guess them. It’s the usual morally bankrupt garbage. The responsible people should just eat whatever the criminals do because that makes less waves.
Yes, because on October 6, the Muslims loved and embraced the Israelis.
I know the Arabs wont take the refugees so what is going to happen to them?
I’m worried about innocent civilians.
Are they condemned to be starved or live in abhorrent conditions?
lets not pretend they have license to go over-board or exterminate a population
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I don’t see Israel as trying to exterminate Palestinians, only to put Hamas out of commission. Hamas is the danger to the Palestinians; they use their civilians as shields.
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