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Macgregor: We need to protect Israel from itself. Tell them: 'No'
Twitter/X ^ | Oct 31 | Douglas Macgregor

Posted on 10/30/2023 10:59:52 PM PDT by RandFan

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To: RandFan

Oh gosh what a shame. They could’ve just lived peacefully and be stuck living in a country with jobs


61 posted on 10/31/2023 12:09:19 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: RandFan

They enabled evil, embraced and celebrated it. The people there came from other Nations and were callously left there to destroy Israel. If you ignore good and evil to “save innocents” you get the situation we have in America where there is no cash bail and a revolving door for repeat offenders yields chaos. Hamas did evil to the Gaza people and most of them did not resist. If Israel eliminates Hamas life for the Gazans will improve. All these years Israel has given them medical care, work, and aid. Once Hamas is eliminated they will again and the people of Gaza can embrace freedom to succeed.


62 posted on 10/31/2023 12:10:58 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: RandFan

“ What I’m saying is it might not be feasible to destroy/eliminate Hamas or it could take many years and be extremally unpalatable.”

What’s it to you?

Or this Mac guy?

Why does he care what Israel does?


63 posted on 10/31/2023 12:11:20 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: RandFan

So, the U.S. should be responsible for the middle east?


64 posted on 10/31/2023 12:13:32 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: JayGalt

Easier said then done is my response.

I’d like to know if the objective is feasible

Like Vietcong or Taliban will Hamas be a stubborn enemy? Can they be eliminated?

I dont know the answer.

The Israelis are an advanced nation and army and know more than little old me.


65 posted on 10/31/2023 12:14:46 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: nickcarraway; x

I think the billions means a seat at the table and a voice. X also mentioned Reagan’s advice in 1982 (this is before my time!!)


66 posted on 10/31/2023 12:16:56 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Yes, Israel’s Country, Israel’s butchered, tortured, raped and kidnapped people. Israel’s life with constant rocket attacks and incursions. Israel’s choice.
No one knows the future. That’s why people llike McGregor are evil. From the sidelines they pretend to have superior knowledge and yammer to pressure another Country with “could be”. Self important windbags using false concern to entrap, to feel important. Disgraceful.
No one wants to see civilians in the midst of war but Hamas put them there. By eliminating Hamas they will have a chance at a better future. Appeasement just insured more death & misery.


67 posted on 10/31/2023 12:21:46 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: RandFan

He is basically telling the Israelis to run up the white flag. Why you are enamoured with this flake is anybodys guess.


68 posted on 10/31/2023 12:27:08 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Patriot777

That’s exactly how it will work out. As you know, it will take Israel 7 months to bury the dead.


69 posted on 10/31/2023 12:28:24 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

It’s an alternative view. I respect him. He is close to Trump you know.


70 posted on 10/31/2023 12:30:03 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

The inbreds in Hamasland have no jungle or mountains. They have their tunnels. But they are facing an opponent very skilled, a long history of beating the odds, high morale thanks to the hamasazis tactics. They train in arid geography. These Hamas goons are done for.


71 posted on 10/31/2023 12:31:57 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: RandFan
restraint should be a watch word

The problem is, there are about 3 billion definitions of restraint. To a Muslim, it means you let him come in and cut your head off, so we have a problem with the definition.

72 posted on 10/31/2023 12:33:46 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: RandFan

Tell us the big picture Einstein


73 posted on 10/31/2023 12:34:32 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

You might be right


74 posted on 10/31/2023 12:34:49 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

The Israelis know what they need to do to survive a lot better than the corrupt politicians in Washington.

We should stop tying their hands and funding their enemies.


75 posted on 10/31/2023 12:36:36 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: RandFan
”What is the objective? To destroy Hamas, right? OK.

But US tried to destroy Vietcong and Taliban and couldn’t and are far more powerful.”

Trump destroyed Isis in less than a year.

76 posted on 10/31/2023 12:39:47 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

I agree and we will soon see if they do have a plan? I hope so.

I trust so.

They know more than us behind our keyboards.

My concern is just for civilians and the perception from using overwhelming force drawing sympathy and anger.

Wars are not only fought or lost on the battlefield these days.


77 posted on 10/31/2023 12:41:42 AM PDT by RandFan
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I just dont want the Israelis to overdo it

Here we are with definitions again.

78 posted on 10/31/2023 12:43:55 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: RandFan
Israel has leverage over the US and the world in the form of its conventional and nuclear strike capabilities against Iran and other potential targets.

Tell Israel no as to eliminating Hamas, and the response from Netanyahu may be, "We cannot permit the wanton and unjustified murder of Israeli citizens by Hamas to go less than fully punished or for Hamas to persist as a threat. Regretfully, if US and other international support is inadequate or is withdrawn, Israel will be forced to give full consideration to the use of all the means at its disposal for dealing with Hamas and is principal supporter, Iran."

Israel has a wide range of options for wrecking Iran and I have no doubt that Israeli military planners are reviewing and updating their target plans. Even with US support against Hamas, at some point, Israel's pain and sense of existential menace may lead to a decision to attack Iran -- perhaps even with nuclear weapons. After that, all of Gaza could be reduced to smoking rubble and bodies and few would care.

79 posted on 10/31/2023 12:44:10 AM PDT by Rockingham (`)
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To: RandFan

The vietcong and Toiletban were able to be resupplied. The cong could cross into Laos, Cambodia. The Toiletban into Pakistan. Hamas has nowhere to run and hide. Egypt current leadership hasn’t forgotten Morsi was in bed with these fuchs. They don’t have any allies willing to air or sealift them stuff. Syria is weak. Lebabon weak. No way Jordan would support them. Iran could prod Hezbollah yo open up the northern front. Israel will destroy whats left of Lebanon and the non shia clans know that. Israel is currently on a good position to destroy hamas. Prob a bit of quick stuff and attrition.


80 posted on 10/31/2023 12:44:22 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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