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Opinions Sought Concerning Supplements for Treating Long Covid
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Posted on 11/21/2023 2:14:11 PM PST by ducttape45

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To: DugwayDuke

Sod off troll.

The Japanese have published research that nattokinase chews up spike protein in vitro.

So it isn’t “no evidence.”


101 posted on 11/22/2023 8:29:59 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ducttape45

Thanks. I have a close family member who is struggling with brain fog. Quadruple vaxxed, had the virus 4 times. (Army). The belief circulating now is that brain fog could be result of micrclotting.

So people are looking for something to clear the presumed microclots, and nattokinase is what people have seized on as a possible means of clearing them. I’m going to suggest it to him. But I’ll suggest taking it for, say, three months. Some people claim they see improvement after 6 weeks. You saw no improvement after a full month which is concerning.

I wouldn’t pay attention to people saying we’re not doctors, don’t listen… the doctors don’t have an answer clearly. We have to look for a solution ourselves. If you do find a solution don’t hesitate to revisit this thread and tell your experience so others can benefit. What works for one may not work for another for various reasons, but it will still point to a possible strategy that may help who it helps.


102 posted on 11/22/2023 8:36:57 AM PST by marron
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To: DugwayDuke
Those actually help people fight covid.

Sure Baghdadaway! Like Remdesivir...

Those grifters selling snake oil only help themselves.

But go ahead and prove it. I'll wait.

103 posted on 11/22/2023 8:39:10 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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To: DugwayDuke; grey_whiskers
Funny thing, almost all the anti-vaxxers are selling something.

It's better than selling death like you vaggots.

104 posted on 11/22/2023 8:42:06 AM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: grey_whiskers

grey_whiskers wrote: “The Japanese have published research that nattokinase chews up spike protein in vitro.

read the article. You know the difference between in vitro and in vivo.
From the aricle:
“There is no evidence that nattokinase dissolves the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 in the human body,” said Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security...

BTW, your study was funded by Takano Foods Co., Ltd.
BTW, Nattokinase is an enzyme that comes from a Japanese food called natto. Natto is made from boiled soybeans that have been fermented with a type of bacteria.

So there are two reasons to doubt the effectiveness of Nattokinase based upon your study.
1. It’s in vitro and not in vivo.
2. The study of a food enzyme paid for by a food company.


105 posted on 11/22/2023 8:48:56 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

aMorePerfectUnion wrote: “But go ahead and prove it. I’ll wait.”

Prove these supplements are little more than a scam to get your money. Go ahead, I’ll wait.


106 posted on 11/22/2023 8:50:48 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Top kek.

You know as well as I do, you lying sack of troll, that “there is no evidence that...” usually means “we don’t want to look” when it might interfere with profits.

Sod off.


107 posted on 11/22/2023 8:54:47 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: numberonepal

numberonepal wrote: “It’s better than selling death like you vaggots.”

The vaccines have saved millions of lives while the anti-vaxxer grifters selling these supplements have yet to save any one. The only thing they’ve accomplished is making millions of dollars for their own personal financial well being while duping the vulnerable.


108 posted on 11/22/2023 8:55:20 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: grey_whiskers

grey_whiskers wrote: “You know as well as I do, you lying sack of troll, that “there is no evidence that...” usually means “we don’t want to look” when it might interfere with profits.”

Or more accurtely: You know as well as I do, you lying sack of troll, that “there is no evidence that the vaccines saves lives” usually means “we don’t want to look” when it might interfere with the anti-vaxxer narrative and the profits of the anti-vaxxer snake oil salesmen.”


109 posted on 11/22/2023 8:58:05 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
Prove these supplements are little more than a scam to get your money. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

Nope. Doesn't work that way.

You made a truth claim. I don't have to disprove it. You have to support it.

I will await your support - factual, logical, etc. - or your claim is nothing more than an opinion, which is what we already know.

110 posted on 11/22/2023 9:04:09 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Top kek”

That’s the sign of real intelligence right there.


111 posted on 11/22/2023 9:04:22 AM PST by chuck allen
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To: ducttape45; CheshireTheCat

The best I’ve seen for pure inflammation eradication is high dose flush niacin coupled with iron citrate. CtC has seen us talk about this a lot.

1.25 g of niacin to one 25 mg of iron citrate. The iron citrate comes in 25mg dose capsules. I make a big batch with the whole bottle of iron citrate.

Now, add nattokinase to the above and you have the best vax injury remedy I’ve run across. Nattokinase has been reliably proven in several studies to eliminate the spike.


112 posted on 11/22/2023 9:08:55 AM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: ducttape45

Looked into nannokinase?


113 posted on 11/22/2023 9:11:49 AM PST by riri (What’re y’all talking bout? I just got a new set of Michelins for the house!)
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To: DugwayDuke

The clot shot vaccines have killed millions worldwide. How many vaccine deaths are enough for you? Presently in the US the count is approaching 40K. And that’s just the stupid VAERS system numbers. The numbers are MUCH higher, and they’re growing every day.


114 posted on 11/22/2023 9:13:42 AM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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numberonepal wrote: “The clot shot vaccines have killed millions worldwide. How many vaccine deaths are enough for you? Presently in the US the count is approaching 40K. And that’s just the stupid VAERS system numbers. The numbers are MUCH higher, and they’re growing every day.”

No, the vaccines have not killed millions.
No, the vaccines have not killed 40K in the US.
No, VARES does not establish causes.
Yes, the vaccines have saved millions world wide.


115 posted on 11/22/2023 9:26:50 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

aMorePerfectUnion wrote: “You made a truth claim. I don’t have to disprove it. You have to support it.”

I’ve already proven it, See post #97.


116 posted on 11/22/2023 9:30:32 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: chuck allen

You must be new here 😉


117 posted on 11/22/2023 9:32:49 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Go get another one.


118 posted on 11/22/2023 9:34:31 AM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: DugwayDuke

Nope.

If you bothered to read the paper, they talk about the chemical structure of nattokinase and how it resembles certain other specific proteases; and IIRC part of the experiments were looking at the degradation of the spike protein when it was bound to cells.

It wasn’t a sales pitch.


119 posted on 11/22/2023 9:35:48 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: numberonepal

Can you FReepmail me the links on nattokinase?


120 posted on 11/22/2023 9:42:09 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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