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Are we in a ‘silent depression’? TikTokers claim 2023 economy is worse than Great Depression
WREG-TV3 Memphis ^ | Dec 11, 2023 / 06:56 AM CST | by: Iridian Fierro, Alix Martichoux

Posted on 12/11/2023 8:53:44 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

I think that someone mentioned to Joe that the thing that ended FDR’s Great Depression was WWII. And by the looks of it, Joe took this to heart and is trying to implement a similar solution ...


21 posted on 12/11/2023 9:12:19 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Red Badger

22 posted on 12/11/2023 9:12:30 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Jonty30

Good discussion—I was thinking back to days as a young adult in Dallas.

My (new to the workforce entry level) wage was 7.00 an hour = $1,120

My very pleasant one bedroom apartment in a large apartment complex near Love Field had a rent = $155 a month

= 14% of my gross pay.

https://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas-rent-study

The average Dallas rent today is $1,801, 11.6 times the rent I was paying in the mid 1970s.

So are wages 11.6 times higher?

Nope.

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/-in-Dallas,TX

The average hourly salary is $32 an hour = 4.6 times the salary I made as an entry level worker, so it is a safe bet that the entry level salary is in the 3 times range.

That means that the young person starting out is paying four times as much in equivalent rent as I was paying as a youngster.

That is brutal by any standard.


23 posted on 12/11/2023 9:17:21 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Obey or get canceled.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I suspect that their brains aren’t fully developed.


24 posted on 12/11/2023 9:18:40 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: babble-on

This is why I believe Tik Tok is a useless excuse for an app.


25 posted on 12/11/2023 9:20:38 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Red Badger

If it were worse, they wouldn’t have access to the stupid app.....


26 posted on 12/11/2023 9:21:17 AM PST by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I saw that movie recently........


27 posted on 12/11/2023 9:24:10 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Of course it’s way worse because it’s happening to them.

These children have no idea what real hardship is.


28 posted on 12/11/2023 9:28:17 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE (Make orwell fiction again)
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To: G Larry

Or iPhones, etc


29 posted on 12/11/2023 9:33:16 AM PST by gattaca (Once a nation loses control of its borders, it is no longer a nation...Ronald Reagan)
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To: Red Badger

Hardly worse, not even to the same level. Tik Toc types have NO CLUE.


30 posted on 12/11/2023 9:33:28 AM PST by madison10 (He watching over Israel slumbers not, nor sleeps.)
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To: READINABLUESTATE
These children have no idea what real hardship is.

'Hardship' to them is being booted off social media for 48 hours.................

31 posted on 12/11/2023 9:33:43 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

TickTockers are economic morons.

Even though I don’t fully believe the government numbers, unemployment hasn’t really budged. Economic recovery from the pandemic seems to have continued.

Mortgage rates are almost normalized (these folks don’t realize that 2% mortgages are the exception, not the rule.). Bond rates around 5% were the norm for ages (remember savings bank rates were 4-5% for decades?)

This economy is not great. But we are nowhere in the same zip code as a “depression.”


32 posted on 12/11/2023 9:35:55 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: cgbg

$155 a month. Exactly what I paid (with roommate so cut it in half) in Arlington in 1970. In 72 I got married and got an older but serviceable apt for $92.50. For $95 I could have gotten it furnished. The Minimum Wage was $1.60 an hour.

That equates to $256 a month, 37% of my pay. My wife worked too, so we survived. I can’t remember what she made.

The problem isn’t so much the minimum wage when we start. The problem is people who after 5, 10, 15 years are still making minimum wage. How can they be so stagnant? My grandson is 18 and makes $19 an hour, way above minimum wage. My step-daughter has only a G.E.D. education and at 46 she’s making $90k. A lot of people are underachieving for some reason.


33 posted on 12/11/2023 9:36:55 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: BigFreakinToad

Yeah, same. Five things occurred that increased the depression (not financial): 1) Biden became president 2) the President left office and has been harassed ever since. 3) The J6 prisoner situation 4) Rush Limbaugh died 5) the unchecked invasion at our border.


34 posted on 12/11/2023 9:37:27 AM PST by madison10 (He watching over Israel slumbers not, nor sleeps.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Two people who might have been thrown to their deaths. I can’t think of any financial loss that would make me commit suicide especially by falling to my death. Russian oligarchs get thrown to their deaths almost daily.


35 posted on 12/11/2023 9:37:31 AM PST by webheart
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To: Vermont Lt

Many businesses here still have Help Wanted signs, are understaffed, especially restaurants and service type industries.

Where are all these ‘immigrants’ that supposedly need jobs? They certainly aren’t looking very hard..............


36 posted on 12/11/2023 9:39:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: madison10

maybe that should be the name for the 20’s, the great personal depression.


37 posted on 12/11/2023 9:39:28 AM PST by BigFreakinToad (Remember the Biden Kitchen Fire of 2004)
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To: Red Badger

When I first came to Hawaii, my 5 acres with a fairly new house and ocean view cost about three times my yearly salary at the time. That is the usual formula. My salary was about 64,000 in year 2000.
Today this same home, quite a bit older would require a Salary of about 300,000 per year to follow the old formula.
I don’t think wages have kept up that much.
The only Depression I experience, is every time a Democrat says something.
I wish my home would decrease in value. I live here, it is not an investment to be flipped to make money. It is my home.
There is no economic Depression.
Just Democrat and RINO BS.


38 posted on 12/11/2023 9:39:32 AM PST by rellic
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To: READINABLUESTATE

In January 2020 the number of employed in the US was 158.8 million. In November of 2023 it was 161.8 million (see link below). So there are 3 million more people with jobs than before the pandemic. But in this time period at least 8 million illegal immigrants entered the country. If they all got jobs, then the legal population must have 5 million fewer jobs than 4 years ago. If none of them got jobs, then the legal population has 3 million more jobs but we have 8 million people who can only survive by having their food, their shelter, their health care, their education, their clothing, and everything they consume provided for them by the legal population through taxes and government subsidy payments to the illegal immigrants. No one is sending these people money from their home countries.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-employment.htm

So either 1) the unemployment rate among legal citizens went up by 5mm/161mm or about 3%, and so the unemployment rate among legal residents is really 6.7% not the 3.7% reported by the government, or 2) we are paying full freight for 8 million people none of whom have a job.


39 posted on 12/11/2023 9:40:58 AM PST by brookwood (If we pay $400 billion for Green New BS, do we get a guarantee that the weather will improve? )
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To: Red Badger

These “migrants” are living the high life on your tax dollars. Why bother getting a job?


40 posted on 12/11/2023 9:47:51 AM PST by In_Iowa_not_from
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