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Do We Still Have the Right Stuff? - America is on the verge of a new space age—if apathy doesn’t kill it.
City Journal ^ | Autumn 2023 | Corbin K. Barthold

Posted on 12/12/2023 5:00:39 AM PST by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 12/12/2023 5:00:39 AM PST by MtnClimber
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The left has already done enough damage to NASA with the Muslim Outreach Program and by redirecting their focus to climate change. I hope we still have the will to explore.


2 posted on 12/12/2023 5:01:09 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Everything on a credit card or extracted from a weakening middle class.... So much to accomplish that costs and costs and costs and....
Debt Clock

Federal Budget Deficit Grew to $2 Trillion in FY 2023 Tax Foundation, 12 October 2023

U.S. Credit Rating Changed From ‘Stable’ To ‘Negative’ As National Debt Balloons Daily Wire, 11 November 2023

"Half of all American workers now make under $41,000 per year.

"That comes to $3,400 per month.

"Given the median rent is $1,978 and used car payment is $528, that leaves precisely $894 for everything else -- food, utilities, medical insurance and premiums, clothes, car repairs, sick kids, and that once a year dinner out at McDonald's."

Peter StOnge


3 posted on 12/12/2023 5:23:55 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Government is already starting to turn on Musk for opening X back up to conservative discussion. I expect they will begin to sandbag SpaceX at every opportunity - except where they can use its rockets to advance military objectives.


4 posted on 12/12/2023 5:24:03 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Read between the lines. Musk and Bezos, supposedly private but actually reaping government money for their "private" quests.

"NASA will land the first woman and first person of color on the moon."

Not Musk. Not Bezos. NASA. Landing the first social justice poster child on the moon, because....

5 posted on 12/12/2023 5:27:36 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Been there, done that, got the moon rocks.


6 posted on 12/12/2023 5:28:00 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Space exploration is racist.

Just an extension of the White, Male impulse to colonize and exploit.

But it’s ok if the Chinese do it!


7 posted on 12/12/2023 5:29:46 AM PST by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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We would have to fix the damage done and have a country interested in backing this type exploration.

Education in America is so bad that I fear for the future regarding programs like space exploration.

I can see it now. “Dummies in Space”. The chimps we sent were less ignorant than many humans now.


8 posted on 12/12/2023 5:30:35 AM PST by dforest
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NASA has been converted into a “Can’t Do!” Bureaucracy since the rocket scientists who created it retired/died.

Any progress in space exploration will be in spite of NASA’s “participation/leadership”.

The purpose of the NEPA is to prevent any progress in space technology. The Luddites reign supreme in the Biden/Obama/RAT administration.


9 posted on 12/12/2023 5:30:40 AM PST by Redleg Duke (“Who is John Galt?”)
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To: Liberty Ship

Whitey’s On The Moon!


10 posted on 12/12/2023 5:33:43 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Whoever controls low earth orbit, or later perhaps, the moon, will control the earth.


11 posted on 12/12/2023 5:38:24 AM PST by marktwain
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As if we need to pump even more billions into an industrial level woke NASA. They make doubting the Apollo missions easy.


12 posted on 12/12/2023 5:41:13 AM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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I don’t care..................


13 posted on 12/12/2023 5:44:03 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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The left has already done enough damage to NASA with the Muslim Outreach Program and by redirecting their focus to climate change. I hope we still have the will to explore.

Right there. What I intended to post, but you did first.

Growing up in the 60s, NASA was the place where things got done. Big things. Exciting things. Inspiring things. There were rockets and space walks and if you were an astronaut, you not only went into space, but you might just find an insanely beautiful genie while you were waiting to be retrieved on your return.

We currently have a rover wandering around Mars on the surface with a helicopter that wanders around Mars in the air. Beyond that, we have probes wandering around the solar system and beyond long past when they were supposed to be working. They continue expanding what we know and expanding what we can do because the people working on them—at this point they've become what we've been told would be required to leave the solar system, multi-generational missions—are finding all manner of clever ways to keep them operating.

And we've got these private companies doing the amazing things they do. SpaceX doesn't just reuse its first stages, it sends out a drone ship to retrieve them and while they're at it, the first stage doesn't drop down and go splash, but instead lands on the drone ship. Sorry, unlike Major Nelson, there's no insanely beautiful genie in any of that retrieval. At least that we know of.

So we do still have the right stuff, but like too many other things, a lot of our younger generations have been disaffected—by design—and are sucking their thumbs, not in wonder, but in fear and loathing.

14 posted on 12/12/2023 5:44:17 AM PST by Dahoser (I finally figured out what to call him: Fakephonyfraudident Biden.)
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“Alex, I’ll take Sting songs for two-hundred”.


15 posted on 12/12/2023 5:47:17 AM PST by gathersnomoss (End This Attack On Justice.)
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And who is going to build the lander?

16 posted on 12/12/2023 6:01:50 AM PST by jmcenanly (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ― Winston)
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---"And who is going to build the lander?"

Apparently Tubby Trendy Wendy and Little Tranny Fanny, if the progressives get their way..... It's all about good intentions.... /s

17 posted on 12/12/2023 6:04:43 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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You can bet if we do go back to the Moon, they will plant the gay flag, instead of the US flag.


18 posted on 12/12/2023 6:05:20 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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When we watch a Saturn 5 takeoff we see it admiration and pride. When a Gen Z sees it they are horrified at what it is doing to Mother Earth.


19 posted on 12/12/2023 6:28:39 AM PST by iamgalt
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Vaguely amusing article.

It spends perhaps 80% of its focus on lower costs, and connects them to the glory of space.

Precisely who remembers the glory of the Apollo program in the context of its costs? The only people who talked about Apollo in the context of costs were the people who wanted to defund it and spend that money elsewhere. Costs are not the engine of enthusiasm.

What is the engine of enthusiasm? Technical advance, and in a fundamental way. Not better computers and not better lighting.

Better propulsion. Getting from point A to point B faster. If you don’t have that, you have no advance.

We don’t have that. There is reason to believe we never will. Physics may actually matter. Physics may actually stand up and say “I don’t care what you want. I don’t care about your silly movies predicated on faster than light travel. I am in control of the universe, that crap is not to be allowed, ever, and you’re not going anywhere.”


20 posted on 12/12/2023 6:37:44 AM PST by Owen (.)
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