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The rise and fall of the American shopping mall
Business Insider ^ | 1/6/23 | Avery Hartmans

Posted on 12/24/2023 10:56:14 AM PST by DallasBiff

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To: DallasBiff

The local mall is mostly empty, but there was still a shooting there a few days ago. The only reason to go there is to fish in the nearby creek.


21 posted on 12/24/2023 11:20:45 AM PST by yawningotter
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To: HonkyTonkMan
Culture killed the mall. Patrons no longer feel safe.

Yep the people Jogi warned us about.

22 posted on 12/24/2023 11:21:55 AM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“”””All of us teens were well behaved and polite.””””

Not all of us, as a high schooler I used to hustle free meals at the mall.

My buddy and I would pick out two good-looking girls sitting at a mall cafe table and my buddy would hungrily and cutely covertly watch them start eating, once they noticed him I would go over and firmly dress him down and then apologize to the girls for my mute brother and explain how he hadn’t eaten for 2 days and then I would tell them how we only discovered we were brothers recently, both of us being orphans and all, etc.

We not only got the food but usually got the nighttime with them as well if we wanted to.


23 posted on 12/24/2023 11:23:49 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Signalman

THAT was the very reason we guys went to the malls as teens in the mid 60s.

I can count on no fingers the number of times we connected.


24 posted on 12/24/2023 11:26:07 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: DallasBiff

There are two kinds of malls:

The malls the white people go to.

The malls the white people used to go to.

-Chris Rock


25 posted on 12/24/2023 11:26:49 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Liberty Ship

roaming gangs of teens, dozens of foreigners selling crap in the middle of the isles and stores that had nothing worth buying is what killed the malls.


26 posted on 12/24/2023 11:27:07 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: ansel12
LOLOL...great story. But how much of that yard is true? Hmmmm?

Reminds me of Rainman

27 posted on 12/24/2023 11:27:34 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: HonkyTonkMan

That would be due to the feral “teens” acting out.


28 posted on 12/24/2023 11:28:26 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: DallasBiff

The Socialist Loser asylum seeking bass turds are going to do the same thing to the big box stores. Walmart has gone full pander to the illegal alien hispanics. The labels on everything are already printed in “hispanic” so they can read them. They’re on their way out. It won’t be long now.


29 posted on 12/24/2023 11:29:03 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (They've begun dismantling Arlington Cemetery, next comes diggin up white solders and dumpin' 'em.)
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To: DallasBiff
The biggest contributor to the decline of the shopping mall was the development of the “big box” store model that replaced the indoor mall. The “big box” shopping center concept was designed to eliminate indoor corridors and open spaces. This helped address two of the major flaws of the indoor mall:

1. It dramatically reduced costs for the mall owner by reducing indoor spaces outside the revenue-generating stores.

2. It discouraged casual shopping by forcing customers to travel directly to each store rather than wandering aimlessly between them without buying much merchandise.

And, yes — the elimination of indoor corridors and atriums also eliminated congregation spaces for mutants and thugs.

30 posted on 12/24/2023 11:31:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Well, we were both always hungry and broke in high school.

I forgot to mention that it often resulted in some money as well, which of course went to beer.

You should have seen us as a team when we joined the Army and had the same Basic together.


31 posted on 12/24/2023 11:36:38 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: TexasFreeper2009

> roaming gangs of teens, dozens of foreigners selling crap in the middle of the isles <

I mentioned earlier (post #8) that there once was a huge mall near me. And you described its final days perfectly.

Oddly enough, that did provide a bit of entertainment for me. I’d sit on a side bench and watch foreigners run after thieving teens. There was no gun play while I was there, which I appreciated.


32 posted on 12/24/2023 11:43:54 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: DallasBiff
We shop different, too. Back then, we bought "bulk"...everything we could think of in one trip.

Now we go for this and that and it gets us out of the house and it's within a couple miles of home. It's a breather.

33 posted on 12/24/2023 11:45:42 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: DallasBiff

Biden is methodically destroying our economy and it no longer supports retail. They’ll keep chipping away at the ability for consumres to make purchasing decisions and eventually, we’ll have to order online to ‘request’ products from Government hubs.


34 posted on 12/24/2023 11:47:14 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: DallasBiff

The poison pill that doomed the malls was the addition of bus lines from the inner city to the burbs. I watched malls around Cleveland die before my eyes as they became rapidly and progressively less safe.


35 posted on 12/24/2023 11:49:57 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: HonkyTonkMan

If I want to hear gunfire and smell that wonderful smokeless powder I go to the range.


36 posted on 12/24/2023 11:50:26 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: HonkyTonkMan

Political correctness killed them. No way to keep out the threats to your customers or keep them safe in the parking lots.


37 posted on 12/24/2023 11:50:33 AM PST by wgmalabama (Censored. )
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To: DallasBiff

Last night, for the first time in many years, I was in a mall (Liberty Place). I’d taken the family out for dinner, and it was the only reasonable place to park.
Now, this used to be a very upscale mall, and as far as I could tell, it still is.
I saw a store that I really wanted to peruse, but the family was waiting and it was only 5pm, so I figured I’d stop by on the way back.
At 6:30, lights out, shut tight as a drum, on a Saturday, 2 days before Christ Mass, in the heart of down town, in a mixed use building. Closed.
Then, I started to look around at others who were passing through, and it was a lot of those types of people who are in all the commercials, and I realized, it just wasn’t worth the risk of theft and violence.


38 posted on 12/24/2023 11:55:47 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In the conflict between the stone and the stream, the stream will always prevail.)
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To: Carriage Hill
Hmm, they don't seem to have that "problem" in Germany.


39 posted on 12/24/2023 11:56:34 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: HonkyTonkMan
Culture killed the mall. Patrons no longer feel safe.

Indeed. I went to a local mal this week for some Christmas shopping. There are notices on the doors advising guns are not allowed and anyone under 18 must be accompanied by an adult. Hmm....

40 posted on 12/24/2023 11:57:04 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man on)
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