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Can Things Get Any Worse In Haiti?
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 15 Mar, 2024 | Francis Menton

Posted on 03/16/2024 4:55:28 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

I live in Florida along the west coast.

There are Haitians here and they generally are hard workers, but very few are friendly, perhaps because of the language barrier.

Haiti probably should make standard French its official language. Haitian Creole may benefit its elite, but it keeps most of the country poor.


21 posted on 03/16/2024 5:46:50 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

Yes. We could send back the Haitians in Florida.


22 posted on 03/16/2024 5:49:46 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: 9YearLurker

“80% of the population could be moved here.”

It is my understanding that about half the population of Puerto Rico fled to the US mainland in the 1950s.


23 posted on 03/16/2024 5:49:57 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Years ago, I had a Florida job and hired several black workers. By far the best in the lot was a 30ish Haitian. He not only worked hard but did a good job. The other blacks didn’t like him much.


24 posted on 03/16/2024 5:52:40 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: nonliberal

Haitians have the slave mentality still after all these years. Those with white genes rule


25 posted on 03/16/2024 5:54:32 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: MtnClimber

As bad as it is…things can ALWAYS get worse in Haiti.

That place is a corrupt mess. And on the other side of the island, the DR thrives.

The strong will always prey on the weak.


26 posted on 03/16/2024 5:56:01 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Thanks for the information.


27 posted on 03/16/2024 6:00:20 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: MtnClimber

When in Haiti now you don’t have to ask what’s on the menu? Its people.


28 posted on 03/16/2024 6:00:46 AM PDT by chopperk (s to )
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To: hinckley buzzard

From an Amazon review:

Capitalism can seem difficult to grasp, but De Soto, who has actually built capitalist economies in developing countries, breaks it down into six parts

1) Document the economic potential of all assets

“Capital is born by representing in writing-in a title, a security, a contract, and in other such records....”

2) Integrate Asset Documentation into one System that Anyone Can Access

“The reason capitalism triumphed in the West and sputtered in the rest of the world is because most of the assets in Western nations have been integrated into one formal representational system. Developing and former communist nations have not done this....In western countries where property information is standardized and universally available what owners can do with their assets benefits from the collective imagination of a larger network of people”

3) Hold People Accountable to the System

....

4) Make Use of the Systems Liquidity

“Representations also enable the division of assets without touching them. Whereas an asset such as a factory may be an indivisible unit in the real world, in the conceptual universe of formal property representation it can be subdivided into any number of portions. Citizens of advanced nations are thus able to split most of their assets into shares, each of which can be owned by different persons, with different rights, to carry out different functions. Thanks to formal property, a single factory can be held by countless investors, who can divest themselves of their property without affecting the integrity of the physical asset. Farmers in many developing countries have no such option and must continually subdivide their farms for each generation until the parcels are too small to farm profitably, leaving the descendants with two alternatives: starving or stealing”

5) Use the System to Network the Business Community

“Property’s real breakthrough is that it radically improved the flow of communications about assets and their potential....

6) Use the System to Encourage Trade

“Although they are established to protect both the security of ownership and that of transactions, it is obvious that western systems emphasize the latter. Security is principally focused on producing trust. The Western emphasis on the security of transactions allows citizens to move large amounts of assets with very few transactions. How else can we explain that in developing and former communist nations people are still taking their pigs to market and trading them one at a time as they have done for thousands of years, whereas in the West traders take representations of their rights over pigs to the market? Traders at the Chicago Commodities Exchange for example deal through representations which give them more information about the pigs they are trading than if they could physically examine each pig. They are able to make deals for huge quantities of pigs with little concerned about the security of transactions.”

https://www.amazon.com/Mystery-Capital-Capitalism-Triumphs-Everywhere/dp/0465016154


29 posted on 03/16/2024 6:01:30 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Capitalism requires capital, money. Haiti has none


30 posted on 03/16/2024 6:03:04 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: MtnClimber; All

VOODOO.


31 posted on 03/16/2024 6:05:21 AM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: 9YearLurker

“the population could be moved here”

Almost all new construction work here is done by Hispanics.

There is a bunch quite noisily placing the roof framing for my neighbor’s addition this morning. Hispanics also placed the block walls. A Caucasian installed the rough plumbing. I didn’t glimpse the group that placed the slab.

There are no jobs for Joe’s “newcomers” here waiting to be filled.


32 posted on 03/16/2024 6:11:05 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: bert

Capital can be in the form of a sewing machine.

A country that has cars can afford sewing machines.


33 posted on 03/16/2024 6:12:51 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin
Haiti probably should make standard French its official language. Haitian Creole may benefit its elite, but it keeps most of the country poor.

Back when Singapore was poor, the decision was made EVERYONE learns English.

34 posted on 03/16/2024 6:12:53 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: bert

Back in 2010 during the earthquake an engineer out of Germany came up with an idea for small houses using minimal amount of lumber. Georgia Pacific donated all the material and even paid for it to be shipped to Haiti. The engineer flew to Haiti with a group of people to help assemble all of these small houses.
The port authority wanted $70,000 to unload the material.
The engineer explained it was all donated and they were they to assemble the houses. Didn’t matter they wanted their money


35 posted on 03/16/2024 6:23:26 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Brian Griffin

Construction, landscaping, dishwashing...


36 posted on 03/16/2024 6:25:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: MtnClimber

When Bill and Hillary Clinton travelled to the Caribbean nation of Haiti as newlyweds in 1975, they were enchanted. Bill had recently lost a race for Congress back home in Arkansas, but by the time they returned to the US, he had set his mind to running for Arkansas state attorney general, a decision which would put him on the path to the White House. “We have had a deep connection to and with Haiti ever since,” Hillary later said.
Over the next four decades, the Clintons became increasingly involved in Haiti, working to reshape the country in profound ways. As US president in the 1990s, Bill lobbied for sweeping changes to Haiti’s agricultural sector that significantly increased the country’s dependence on American food crops. In 1994, three years after a military coup in Haiti, Bill ordered a US invasion that overthrew the junta and restored the country’s democratically elected president to power. Fifteen years later, Bill was appointed United Nations’ special envoy to Haiti, tasked with helping the country to develop its private sector and invigorate its economy. By 2010, the Clintons were two of Haiti’s largest benefactors. Their personal philanthropic fund, The Clinton Foundation, had 34 projects in the country, focused on things such as creating jobs.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/11/haiti-and-the-failed-promise-of-us-aid

So where ya think the money went?


37 posted on 03/16/2024 6:26:22 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: Brian Griffin

“Haiti probably should make standard French its official language.”

During evening shifts, I’d take my silent dinner break with the Miami-Dade Cuban women who made up the cleaning crew.

Among them, there was one HAITIAN woman, who was being taught how to speak Spanish!

:-/


38 posted on 03/16/2024 6:39:05 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦...Motels for Migrants give legitimate addresses for mail-in votes.)
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To: Brian Griffin

“Perhaps gang members of an armed gang should be treated as members of an irregular military group.”

They need to “disappear” from the earth, permanently.


39 posted on 03/16/2024 6:43:17 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: MtnClimber

Wait till the Clinton’s help Biden.

Then it’ll get even worse


40 posted on 03/16/2024 7:01:06 AM PDT by cableguymn
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