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What is ammonium sulfide ?
1-1-02 | vinylsidingman

Posted on 01/01/2002 8:00:29 AM PST by vinylsidingman

I'm trying to help neighbor find out what his 17 old would be doing with several ampules of ammonium sulfide.

From what i've been able to find on the net this is not a very safe thing for teens, or anyone without experience to have.

Thanking freepers in advance for comments

vsm


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1 posted on 01/01/2002 8:00:29 AM PST by vinylsidingman
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To: vinylsidingman
For practical jokes, stinky smelling
2 posted on 01/01/2002 8:04:43 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: vinylsidingman
It sounds like something that could go into meth. But it's also part of what mcveigh used in his bomb.
3 posted on 01/01/2002 8:05:13 AM PST by Jewels1091
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To: Jewels1091
But it's also part of what mcveigh used in his bomb.

You flunk chemistry?
4 posted on 01/01/2002 8:07:13 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: sasquatch
ASFO! LOL!
5 posted on 01/01/2002 8:09:38 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: vinylsidingman
We used it in photo developing.
6 posted on 01/01/2002 8:10:09 AM PST by thatsnotnice
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To: vinylsidingman
Also known as a "stink bomb."
7 posted on 01/01/2002 8:11:15 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
For practical jokes, stinky smelling

hope that's it,,,

8 posted on 01/01/2002 8:11:25 AM PST by vinylsidingman
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To: spycatcher
From MSDS:
Contact with acids may evolve hydrogen sulfide
9 posted on 01/01/2002 8:12:55 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: vinylsidingman
What does the 17 year old say?
11 posted on 01/01/2002 8:14:50 AM PST by deport
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To: sasquatch
Contact with acids may evolve hydrogen sulfide

and that is for ?

12 posted on 01/01/2002 8:15:32 AM PST by vinylsidingman
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To: sasquatch
H2s is deadly,it can kill real quick,sometimes kids just don't know what can kill them.
13 posted on 01/01/2002 8:16:52 AM PST by eastforker
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To: sixtycyclehum
It's a pretty useless chemical for anything other than photography and grossing people out.

thanx for the info,,,

14 posted on 01/01/2002 8:17:14 AM PST by vinylsidingman
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To: Jewels1091
But it's also part of what mcveigh used in his bomb.

Er, I believe you mean ammonium NITRATE.

15 posted on 01/01/2002 8:18:13 AM PST by TomB
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To: vinylsidingman
It'll clear the school out in a hurry. Rotten eggs.
16 posted on 01/01/2002 8:18:41 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: deport
What does the 17 year old say?

he doesn't know they found it yet.. mom doesn't want to jump before its time to worry,,, just a concerned parent

17 posted on 01/01/2002 8:19:25 AM PST by vinylsidingman
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To: vinylsidingman
hydrogen sulfide,better known as H2S is poison and highly flammable,it can kill in a few seconds and ignights very easily.
18 posted on 01/01/2002 8:20:39 AM PST by eastforker
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19 posted on 01/01/2002 8:22:18 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: vinylsidingman
You've been around hydrogen sulfide. It's that rotten egg smell at a marsh or in stagnant water. It's a byproduct of anaerobic bacteria, and pretty toxic.

Doesn't have much use as a poison, though, because it's so dang stinky. It's a big part of what makes sewage smell bad.

I'm going with the stink bomb hypothesis. Iron filings and sulphuric acid will do it too.


20 posted on 01/01/2002 8:24:03 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: vinylsidingman
Hydrogen sulfide is the "rotten-egg" smell of decomposing protein. Aitch-two-ess is also used in analytical chemistry as a test for the presence of certain metallic ions in a solution (don't ask me, this bit of knowledge was gained 40 years ago), and the stuff is flammable in the presence of oxygen. It is soluble in water, heavier than air, and is noxious in concentrations of only a few hundred parts per million. It is probably safer to breath gasoline fumes, but nobody, so far as I know, has ever breathed in enough hydrogen sulfide to get a high from doing so. Nausea is much more likely.
21 posted on 01/01/2002 8:24:53 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: vinylsidingman
ammonium sulfide
Inorganic Chemistry. (NH4)2S, yellow crystals that are soluble in water and alcohol; used in photographic developers and to provide synthetic flavors.
http://www.harcourt.com/dictionary/def/4/7/6/5/476500.html

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Hazard Summary:
*Ammonium Sulfide can affect you when breathed in and by passing through your skin.
*This substance is a CORROSIVE CHEMICAL.
*Contact can irritate and burn the eyes and skin.
*Breathing Ammonium Sulfide can irritate the nose, throat and lungs, causing a cough and difficulty in breathing.
*Very high levels can cause you do feel dizzy, lightheaded and to pass out.
*Ammonium Sulfide is a FLAMMABLE LIUQID and a FIRE HAZARD.
REASON FOR CITATION
*Ammonium Sulfide is on the Haxardous Substance List because it is cited by DOT and EPA.
*This chemical is on the Special Health Haxard Substance list because it is CORROSIVE.
http://www.state.nj.us/health/eoh/rtkweb/0115.pdf

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Can be used to give a petina finish to copper.
http://protection.copper.org/sources.htm

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how 2 make stink bombs
http://www.prank.org/prank.php4?prankID=790

22 posted on 01/01/2002 8:25:43 AM PST by amom
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To: thatsnotnice
We used it in photo developing.

Are you sure you aren't referring to "sodium thiosulfate?"

In a b/w darkroom, it was commonly called "fixer."

It smelled sour, but not nearly as bad as "rotten eggs."

23 posted on 01/01/2002 8:25:55 AM PST by ihatemyalarmclock
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To: isthisnickcool
hahahahah,,, thanx for the chuckle,,,
24 posted on 01/01/2002 8:26:00 AM PST by vinylsidingman
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To: eastforker
H2s is deadly,it can kill real quick,sometimes kids just don't know what can kill them.

H2S + H2O = H2SO4

breath enough of it and it "makes" H2SO4 inside your body and can be fatal

I would guess that the kids want it to stink things up
Practical Jokes
26 posted on 01/01/2002 8:26:51 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: eastforker
hydrogen sulfide,better known as H2S is poison and highly flammable,it can kill in a few seconds and ignights very easily.

Assuming you could keep anyone near it long enough to get a lethal dose. People are disgusted by it at the part-per-million level. These ammonium polysulfide ampules have been sold in joke shops for decades. They are used for clearing out study halls, and for delicatley placing under toilet seats, etc.

You do not have a Columbine Kid..you have someone who was a kid like I was! You could do worse, though it would be nice to find out what his intended target was...if it was beyond the practical joke stage, that would not be too funny.

27 posted on 01/01/2002 8:27:39 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: alloysteel
It is probably safer to breath gasoline fumes, but nobody, so far as I know, has ever breathed in enough hydrogen sulfide to get a high from doing so. Nausea is much more likely.

read at ask jeeves 600ppm is deadly,, that's the one that worried my friend the most

thanx for the input

28 posted on 01/01/2002 8:30:33 AM PST by vinylsidingman
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To: vinylsidingman
As far as his plans go...

Schools take stink bombs seriously and in some states (like Illinois) there may be "criminal damage to property" charges, so he should be warned.

29 posted on 01/01/2002 8:30:46 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: alloysteel
Many a rough neck has been killed by hydrogen sulfide,in higher concentrations it desenticises(sp) the ability to smell,anything over 10 PPM supplied breathing air is required.Sulpheric acid in a car battery produces H2S when it undergoes charging because it is being heated,alluminun sulfide might act as a catalyst to release the hydrgen in sulphuric acid,not for sure,anyways,sometime harmless chemicals mixed with other somewhat harmless chemical can be extremely dangerous,just like bleach and ammonia.
30 posted on 01/01/2002 8:31:35 AM PST by eastforker
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To: Fiddlstix
Your reaction is out of balance -- too many H on the left side and too many O on the right.
31 posted on 01/01/2002 8:31:43 AM PST by Lessismore
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To: vinylsidingman
Hydrogen sulfide is "sewer gas", an overwhelming rotten egg smell as a trace gas and highly toxic in moderate concentrations.
32 posted on 01/01/2002 8:32:53 AM PST by SevenDaysInMay
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To: eastforker
alluminum=ammonium
33 posted on 01/01/2002 8:33:28 AM PST by eastforker
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To: vinylsidingman
It's a stink bomb stuff. The H2S is toxic, but no one will stand it long enough for deleterious effect. It will give folks a bad headache if they're forced to endure it, or immediately if they're already sensitized to it.

It's a reducing agent and is also used to precipitate heavy metals from solution. It's of no use in any kind of drug production.

34 posted on 01/01/2002 8:36:23 AM PST by spunkets
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To: spycatcher
Schools take stink bombs seriously and in some states (like Illinois) there may be "criminal damage to property" charges, so he should be warned.

this is what i love about FR,,,, what an incredible warehouse of knowledge,,,, thanks freepers,,,

my neighbor was astonished at the responses,,,

a new freeper?
gotta love it

35 posted on 01/01/2002 8:36:40 AM PST by vinylsidingman
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To: spycatcher
Schools take stink bombs seriously and in some states (like Illinois) there may be "criminal damage to property" charges, so he should be warned.

No wonder kids get hyper. The ability to be a fun-loving, prankster has been removed from the world of adolescence.

36 posted on 01/01/2002 8:38:57 AM PST by Thumper1960
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To: Lessismore
Your reaction is out of balance -- too many H on the left side and too many O on the right.

ROFL! You are right!

My AGE is showing today, Big Time!

I was thinking of SO2 .... Duh!
SO2 + H2O = H2SO4

Thanks for pointing it out J
(guess I should've got more sleep last night)
37 posted on 01/01/2002 8:40:42 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: alloysteel
It takes 4 times as much cyanide to kill you as it does hydrogen sulfide.

The first thing that happens after you smell H2S, is that it begins to anesthetize your sense of smell for it. That's why they call it "sneaky gas" in the oil fields.

Lethal concentrations will only be detectable by smell for a few seconds.

38 posted on 01/01/2002 8:41:55 AM PST by mfulstone
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To: vinylsidingman
LOL Fun ain't we? Welcome to FR for your friend. Tell her thanks for being a good concerned parent and asking before taking action. Good luck to y'all.
39 posted on 01/01/2002 8:42:28 AM PST by amom
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Sodiun thiosulfate is used as a reducing agent in photo developing. Sulfides are not.
40 posted on 01/01/2002 8:43:47 AM PST by spunkets
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To: amom
her? her, him. whichever applies. :-)
41 posted on 01/01/2002 8:44:36 AM PST by amom
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To: amom
LOL Fun ain't we? Welcome to FR for your friend. Tell her thanks for being a good concerned parent and asking before taking action. Good luck to y'all. thanx amom,,
Now ,, if we could get the congress critters to seek advice here,,

hey,, if you're gonna wish ,, might as well wish GOOD,,,,

42 posted on 01/01/2002 8:47:40 AM PST by vinylsidingman
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To: Thumper1960
Yep the times have changed. Depending on the school, mere possession of a stink bomb may lead to suspension. They treat them just like an M-80.
43 posted on 01/01/2002 8:48:27 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: Jewels1091
>>But it's also part of what mcveigh used in his bomb.

Sorry...that's ammonium nitrate (a fertilizer) and diesel fuel

44 posted on 01/01/2002 8:49:55 AM PST by The Raven
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To: vinylsidingman
Now ,, if we could get the congress critters to seek advice here

LOL good point.

45 posted on 01/01/2002 8:51:03 AM PST by amom
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To: spycatcher
You are right...it is the common, garden variety stink bomb. It is not the same thing as is used in photo processing. Check the chemical name, especially the last part: ammonium sulfide, not to be confused with sulfates, thiosulfates, etc.

This suff breaks down into hydrogen sulphide (rotten egg gas) which escapes into the air. It takes only a minute trace of it to make an awful stench and in a confined space it can be poisonous. Humans and most mammals are repulsed by it as it is the scent of severly decomposed protein that is unfit to eat..possibly even toxic.

46 posted on 01/01/2002 8:53:04 AM PST by capt. norm
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To: vinylsidingman
Ammonium sulfide uses--- Textile industry; photography (developers); coloring brasses, bronzes; iron control in soda ash production; synthetic flavors. [The Condensed Chemicl Dictionary ]
47 posted on 01/01/2002 8:56:06 AM PST by gatex
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To: vinylsidingman
Yes it can make someone very sick or even kill them if they are allergic to sulfites/sulfides.

My mom is and I have seen what happens, ranging from headaches to she almost died a few years ago.

48 posted on 01/01/2002 9:15:42 AM PST by CARDINALRULES
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To: Jewels1091
WRONG. He used amonium nitrate.
49 posted on 01/01/2002 9:20:05 AM PST by oneeye
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To: spycatcher
sheesh! And to think back in the '70's, we took water pistols to school and messed around. The worst that happened was confiscation and a look of annoyance.
50 posted on 01/01/2002 10:34:48 AM PST by Thumper1960
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