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Dogs Make Us Human
Australian Museum ^ | 3-25-2002 | Heidi De Wald

Posted on 03/26/2002 10:29:27 AM PST by blam

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To: Johnny Gage
RIP
51 posted on 03/27/2002 7:19:23 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: 2Trievers
Dogs Rule! Labs Rule!

No argument here!
Obligatory fair representation of labs of all colors!


52 posted on 03/27/2002 7:20:07 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

You forgot one Dog! *wink*

54 posted on 03/27/2002 7:36:34 AM PST by 2Trievers
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To: 2Trievers
Thank you... I haven't had one of those... they need to be represented too.
55 posted on 03/27/2002 7:38:55 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I did ... was the only Lab I had bad luck with. Her name was Hershey. Came from a my vet's litter of Labs. He would check in about her every few weeks and I used to tease him about the dog needing a brain transplant. My 3 boys were little at the time and we could not break her of the habit nipping at the boy's heels when they rode their bikes. The vet was over my place giving Hershey an immunization, when he saw her nipping the boys. He threw her in his truck and took her way saying, "No dog of mine is ever going to do that." He ended up giving her to an elderly couple with no grandkids who kept her chained when not on a leash. Some are like that. She also never had that characteristic "cock" to the head when you talked to her. Very unusual for the breed.
56 posted on 03/27/2002 7:55:26 AM PST by 2Trievers
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To: 2Trievers
I think chocolates have the problem of small gene pool and the priority of color over content in their breeding. [ducking to avoid the possible shots to be fired by chocolate lovers]

My black lab pictured above, though is also a pure product of show breeders. He is [was, he is 13 years older and quite bent now] quite beautiful, but one of the lousiest retrievers you ever saw. He has been a good friend though. What he lacks in complex thought he more than makes up for in complete and utter honesty.

57 posted on 03/27/2002 8:26:23 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: 2Trievers
If you look at the Cocker mix on my profile page, pictured with my Labrador, you will see the Ying for his Yang. She is also old now, and she was the hunter of the two. Every bird ever found was her doing, and he was there only to pack it back for her if we got it. Together, they made one pretty good dog!
58 posted on 03/27/2002 8:31:11 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: CasearianDaoist
Perhaps that is a good way of looking at it...I just miss the doggies so much when they leave us...
59 posted on 03/27/2002 9:07:15 AM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Johnny Gage
Sounds like you had a wonderful vet, who understood the broken hearts that are left behind when a beloved pet dies...also very nice of your vet to make donations to help other dogs....

Luckily for me, my last three dogs all died at home, I did not have to take them in to be put down....but wherever the dog departs from, its always so wonderful to have the family hold the dog while it dies, and lets the dog know how much they are loved...oh, my, the tears a flowing....

60 posted on 03/27/2002 9:13:56 AM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: andysandmikesmom
So do I. I have no real answer for this other than to love them while they walk beside us.
61 posted on 03/27/2002 12:10:46 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: blam
Looks like the life o' Reilly!  :^)
62 posted on 03/27/2002 12:24:46 PM PST by pa_dweller
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To: HairOfTheDog
A tearjerker!... bring your kleenex!

You said it!

63 posted on 03/27/2002 12:40:29 PM PST by pa_dweller
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
Why do all the so call amimal rights activists want me to castrat my dogs?

Perhaps because they get awful darn tired of having to kill his unwanted progeny?

Spay or neuter your dogs! there are lots and lots of breeders out there. Too many. Not everyone needs to be one. The number of healthy but unwanted pets we put down in this country every day is a travesty.

And the next time you consider how cute it would be to have a litter of pups, go down and just spend a day at the pound. Count the ones with the red tags indicating their time is up. If that doesn't convince you, I don't know what will. The homes you find for your pups could have easily taken home one of those poor souls.

64 posted on 03/27/2002 1:27:12 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I agree with you wholeheartedly on this score...I regularly visit different website, offering up homeless animals, and it just breaks you heart when you see so many animals that dont have a home...and you just know, that sooner or later, for some of those animals, their time will be up, and they will have to be put down...

Spaying and neutering of our pets is a responsible action, which actually does not even cost that much...and there are many animal clinics which have reduced fare, and free fare for those who are low income, yet would still love to have a pet...there is no excuse for the number of unwanted animals who must be euthanized each year...

As you said, there are many, many responsible breeders out there, who allow their animals to have litters, in order to preserve the character of the breed.....and that is good...but for those people who allow their mixed breed animals to have litters, and have no concern for the future of those animals, they should really be ashamed...

Hate to rant, but the sheer numbers and magnitude of the problem makes me angry....

65 posted on 03/27/2002 1:50:54 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: CasearianDaoist
I guess thats all we can do, love them while they are here...my husband and I spoil each and every animal we have ever had...we justify this by telling ourselves, that since they have such a short life span in comparison to our own, that we must love them double, or triple, whatever..

We have raised our human children with massive amounts of love, and it paid off...so we raise our 'animal' children with that same love, and get rewarded a thousand fold...

66 posted on 03/27/2002 1:54:20 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: HairOfTheDog
Lovin' those dogs! Give 'em a hug for me will ya' Dog!
67 posted on 03/27/2002 2:10:35 PM PST by 2Trievers
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To: HairOfTheDog
Spay or neuter your dogs! there are lots and lots of breeders out there. Too many. Not everyone needs to be one. The number of healthy but unwanted pets we put down in this country every day is a travesty.

Well said!!

The Dog Pack Home Page

68 posted on 03/28/2002 12:58:33 AM PST by SCDogPapa
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To: SCDogPapa
opps,,,it didn't work. Working on this site. Well, actually not in a while. I keep getting side tracked.

http://www.geocities.com/wcpettus/

69 posted on 03/28/2002 1:01:03 AM PST by SCDogPapa
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To: SCDogPapa
I got there - how fun! Your dogs, both the Old Pack and the New Pack, are lucky to have you!
70 posted on 03/28/2002 3:24:48 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: one_particular_harbour
There are times that my dog is the only thing that allows me to keep my sanity.
72 posted on 03/28/2002 3:40:48 AM PST by riley1992
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To: one_particular_harbour
and am typing one handed

A practice you have mastered, I'm sure.

74 posted on 03/28/2002 3:49:39 AM PST by riley1992
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To: one_particular_harbour
That was a cheap shot, LOL.

Oui. You expected less than that from me?

76 posted on 03/28/2002 5:05:56 AM PST by riley1992
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To: HairOfTheDog
Perhaps because they get awful darn tired of having to kill his unwanted progeny?

Why can’t I get my dog a vasectomy? That seems a lot more ethical than mutilating his genitals.

77 posted on 03/28/2002 7:12:50 AM PST by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: HairOfTheDog
Thanks for stopping by. The being side tracked I mentioned, started with 9-11 and then in January,,,,Free Republic.

The only things I have not put on the site is the death of Boots the cat, 12-5-01 and the addition of Sassy Cat, 10-03-01. Sassy was a 6 week old kitten my wife found along the roadside. She was nearly starved to death and had several puncture wounds. The wife, a Vet Tech, not working as such now due to back problems from lifting large dogs, nursed her to good health. A kitten that could fit in your hand, now, standing on her back feet, can reach my belt. :)

78 posted on 03/28/2002 7:13:33 AM PST by SCDogPapa
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
Why can’t I get my dog a vasectomy? That seems a lot more ethical than mutilating his genitals.

They don't mutilate,,,they remove them. If they are not breeding males, which they don't need to be, they DON"T NEED THEM! It also makes for a happier dog. He has none of the problems of having to deal with intact females in heat and also he will be healthier dog.

79 posted on 03/28/2002 7:21:56 AM PST by SCDogPapa
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
Well, since dogs' egos are not bound to their genitals, I seriously don't think he knows or cares that they are gone. And as a girl, I have not the personal bond with the things you have, but I can say they are not as pretty as you think they are. I would hardly call it mutilation.

If there is a possibility that you are serious, or that at least others may care, after middle age, the male hormones stop being helpful and begin to be detrimental to the health of the dog. Un-neutered dogs get many more cancers in later life that can be avoided by neutering.(including testicular cancer), but also colon cancer and others. By spaying and neutering, and taking the parts out that now have no function, your pet has one less thing that can get, or cause cancer later in life.

80 posted on 03/28/2002 7:26:28 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: SCDogPapa
they DON"T NEED THEM!

Being a male myself, I find that hard to accept. Nearly all of the neutered males that I have seen are fat and lazy. Like they have no hope and nothing to live for.

81 posted on 03/28/2002 7:30:05 AM PST by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: HairOfTheDog;one_particular_harbour
and taking the parts out that now have no function

Have no function!!! I beg your pardon!

82 posted on 03/28/2002 7:34:59 AM PST by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
Their function is reproduction. And I guess therein lies the rub... A male dog with a vasectomy would retain the drive to think about that and nothing else, and one of the benefits of neutering the male dog is to get the brain back so maybe he will work.

We are talking about dogs here, right? - Is your own ego perhaps to closely tied with your dog's genitals? ;~D

83 posted on 03/28/2002 7:41:23 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: SCDogPapa
What have I gotten myself into here?
84 posted on 03/28/2002 7:45:12 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog;one_particular_harbour
A male dog with a vasectomy would retain the drive to think about that and nothing else, and one of the benefits of neutering the male dog is to get the brain back so maybe he will work.

I have heard the same thing said about me.

85 posted on 03/28/2002 7:45:27 AM PST by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
hehehehehe. I know.
86 posted on 03/28/2002 7:47:39 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: one_particular_harbour; Calculus_of_Consent

Boo!
Hahahahaha

87 posted on 03/28/2002 7:50:17 AM PST by riley1992
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To: riley1992
Well that dog certainly looks happier. Not!
88 posted on 03/28/2002 7:52:15 AM PST by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
No, but the woman in the pic certainly seems to be enjoying herself.
89 posted on 03/28/2002 7:53:44 AM PST by riley1992
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
Being a male myself, I find that hard to accept. Nearly all of the neutered males that I have seen are fat and lazy. Like they have no hope and nothing to live for.

You must be talking about yourself. I think my SIX males would disagree with you. Tell my oldest dog, Jim Dandy, 14yrs,, a pit/pointer mix, @ 90lbs that or Stranger, a shep/rottie mix, @ 100lbs that, I think they will disagree also.

As for myself,,I was fixed in 1975. No problems here.

90 posted on 03/28/2002 8:01:01 AM PST by SCDogPapa
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To: HairOfTheDog
Good question. Being an educator is never pain free.
91 posted on 03/28/2002 8:02:38 AM PST by SCDogPapa
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To: riley1992;xsmommy;RikaStrom;SeaDragon
No, but the woman in the pic certainly seems to be enjoying herself.

Yes she does and that's what scares me. This whole neuter you dog campaign is just to get the public used to the idea that castration is okay. Next they will be telling guys who age too unattractive to get any, that they will be much happier if they are neutered.

I’m not going to let that happen to my friend OPH.

92 posted on 03/28/2002 8:31:38 AM PST by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: Calculus_of_Consent;one_particular_harbour;hobbes1; dubyaismypresident; cholerajoe; argh; rikastrom
i can't believe the vet released this pic of xspup's neutering without asking my permission!
93 posted on 03/28/2002 8:52:56 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: riley1992
No, but the woman in the pic certainly seems to be enjoying herself.

A little bit too much. She must be some Lorena bobbit wannabe.

94 posted on 03/28/2002 8:55:03 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: xsmommy
How do you live with the guilt?
95 posted on 03/28/2002 9:01:18 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident
you weren't going to do anything with those, were ya...?
96 posted on 03/28/2002 9:17:36 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: HairOfTheDog
BEAUTY LAB, HAIR!! I just love Labs.
97 posted on 03/28/2002 9:31:03 AM PST by Argh
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To: xsmommy
Step away from the scissors, lady.
98 posted on 03/28/2002 9:34:23 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: Calculus_of_Consent; one_particular_harbour
I’m not going to let that happen to my friend OPH.

I'm sure that will never happen to him, COC. He is aging wonderfully-the Krispy Kreme doughnuts are filling out his pretty, feminine bathrobe quite nicely and that hickabilly accent (no offense, I'm sure you sound sexy) is enough to make any woman drool. That, coupled with his love for wife beating t-shirts and sitting spread eagle on the sofa while his eyes glaze over watching S4 should be plenty good enough to keep the neuterers at bay.

99 posted on 03/28/2002 9:47:58 AM PST by riley1992
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To: Argh
Thanks! - He does look quite distinguished in that shot! (and I know what a goofy bustard he really is) that pic was taken in his prime, and now he is 14. Here is a more current pic:

With him is the rest of my unmatched muttly crew... (Not a "potent" member in the bunch) My labrador was actually un-neutered until he was seven, because he was shown. And although he did well in competition, he didn't do well enough to make his seed more valuable than better dogs that were doing the job. Before he was neutered he was a general pain to be around, much more interested in the female dogs in the field than any birds that might be there. He was neutered for his health because he was getting older... and had I understood how much nicer to be around he would become, I would have done it YEARS earlier.

The cocker mix showed up at my door, needing immediate help to survive she was so sick and starved, that was 15 years ago.

The Dal-Brador in the middle is my young dog. She was actually supposed to be a gift for a boyfriend, but I ended up keeping the dog and ditching the guy.

100 posted on 03/28/2002 9:50:59 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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