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Rusty Nuts Need Help--Have you got this?
Self ^ | 04-06-02 | grrrrr

Posted on 04/06/2002 4:40:37 AM PST by GRRRRR

I have seen the add for Gator-Grip dozens of times and I don't normally buy things off the TV...BUT, has anyone tried this tool?

To me, the design looks solid and the pin action should work well on rusty nuts and bolts.

Have any of you used this tool to free up tight bolts etc? Going to replace garage panels and I've got many rusty nuts that will need to be undone.

GRRRRRRRR


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1 posted on 04/06/2002 4:40:37 AM PST by GRRRRR
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To: GRRRRR
It's been a while, but rusty--I don't think so. It's like riding a bicycle.
2 posted on 04/06/2002 4:45:41 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: GRRRRR
Never a problem for me. I always keep my nuts well lubed!
3 posted on 04/06/2002 4:46:12 AM PST by GotMojo
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To: GRRRRR
Thanks to those %$#*& new bicycle seats, I have no comment!
4 posted on 04/06/2002 4:47:34 AM PST by capt. norm
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To: GRRRRR
Just buy some fluid that you pour on the nut/bolt, tap a few times, wait, then use an ordinary wrench. If that doesn't work, repeat. The fluid is called liquid wrench. Do you think this problem hasn't been solved before? The tool may work fine, but it is just a wrench afterall. If you don't have any wrenches and are on a budget then I would say it's probably a decent purchase. The fewer moving parts the better, and I think those steel rods may be problemmatic after awhile of gathering dirt.
5 posted on 04/06/2002 4:50:02 AM PST by DC Packfan
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To: GRRRRR
Hose 'em down with WD40 or other penetrating oil and let it soak for a couple of days. (BreakFree, or Browning Oil are also good; 3-in-one works in a pinch.) Then get ahold of 'em with a 9/16 or whatever size 6-point socket and turn 'em off. If a REAL tool won't work, try a big pair of vice grips. If that doesn't work, cut 'em or drill 'em out.

Just mho...

6 posted on 04/06/2002 4:54:07 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner
This is one topic my wife wants to comment on.

Not today, dear: I've got a...

7 posted on 04/06/2002 4:56:42 AM PST by genefromjersey
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To: DC Packfan
another vote for liquid wrench.
8 posted on 04/06/2002 4:57:25 AM PST by Rustynailww
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To: DC Packfan
Yeah, I've done the Liquid Wrench thing and used my standby Craftsman nut driver and ratchet before...but you always have to switch nut sockets and stuff.

This gadget looks like a nice all purpose tool, you are right about going in for high torque though...when you get up to 60-70 ft-lbs of torque, those pins could shift and mess up your bolt or nut heads.

I'm going to get it and see how it performs.

Saturday is TOOL DAY!

GRRRRRRRRollin'

9 posted on 04/06/2002 4:57:30 AM PST by GRRRRR
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To: GRRRRR
Grind, cut, or chisel them off- it's faster and easier.

They're rusty- what do you want to save them for?

10 posted on 04/06/2002 4:58:16 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: GRRRRR
The major problem with rusty bolts is the rust has expanded the area between the bolt and the nut making a very tight seal.

A tool that grabs tight enough will just break the bolt off at the surface mostlikely at the weak point where the threads end.

It depends on which is stronger the contact between the bolt and the nut, or the area of bolt where the threads end. The bolt almost always breaks.

The liquid wrench or WD-40 soaks into the rust making the surface between the nut and then bold slick. The contact between the bold and the nut is weakened enough to allow the nut to turn with a normal wrench.

Actually the little rods in the TV wrench soon bend on hard to turn objects and the wrench ceases to work.

Con artists start a marketing firm. It sells the wrench on TV and guarantees it for life. The guarantee is for the life of the marketing firm. The marketing firms go out of business about a week after the TV ads end this year.

Next year they start a new marketing firm and the same wrench shows up on TV again with a "Lifetime Guarantee."

These ads show up in slow TV ad sales times. The slowest months are February and July. The people that do the ads pay the station for each wrench sold. Generaly the TV or channel station gets half the price plus shipping and handling. Generally something that could sell in a store for $6.95 will cost $19.95 plus "shipping and handling" on TV.

Just remember that every time Billy May sells you a Whopping 4 lb bucket of OxyKlean for $19.95 the TV channel gets 10 bucks for running his ad. Some cons that work especially well will convert from PI payment to the station to regular adds, because they can make a lot more by just buying regular time. It the thing does work well, it will show up in stores for about 1/4 the total TV cost.

11 posted on 04/06/2002 6:12:28 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: GRRRRR
Like any specialized tool, this has advantages and disadvantages I can see.

The configuration of hexagonical pins is great for gripping odd surfaces, like the water spigot with a broken handle. The downside is that there must be sufficient space around the offending bolt for the "unused" region of the socket to occupy.

Now, consider the situation likely to be encountered in the "rusty nut" scenario: Usualy, the fixture is located in some type of recess that allows water to accumulate. This will render the huge socket useless.

No, I have found the combination of high strength six-point sockets (like the kind you get with impact-tools) and WD-40 to be far more effective in breaking rusty nuts loose. That, and a short piece of pipe to extend the handle, therefore increase the leverage, of the socket wrench.

12 posted on 04/06/2002 6:18:59 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Cyber Liberty
Oh, I forgot "Patience" as a very important of my general solution. Give the WD-40 time to work.
13 posted on 04/06/2002 6:20:19 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Common Tator
"Per-Inquiry" is what we called those ads at the TV stations I've worked. We'd have huge spools of the PI ads start every December 25th.
14 posted on 04/06/2002 6:22:08 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Common Tator
...PI payment to the station...

Juts saw that on your post. Sorry.

As an aside, I find your posts about the inside of the braodcast biz very enlightening. I worked there for a more than a few years myself, and the bits I spot and recognize, like this one, reinforce the accuracy of your posts.

15 posted on 04/06/2002 6:24:21 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: GRRRRR
"Removing Stuck, Rusty Nuts for Dummies"

Grinding is the easiest way to get your rusty nuts off (without burning them off).
I do this a lot on bolts less than 1/2 inch (on the larger ones first cut off the bolt near flush with the nut).

Grind the exposed bolt down to inside the nut:
the heat expands the crack between the nut and bolt,
exposes the crack between the nut and bolt so you can apply the "wd-40",
and it can be done without taking excessive care to protect the nearby surface.
It also leaves a nice dimple in the bolt for centering your bit in case you have to drill it out.

The more of the nut you remove the better- but then you start having to worry about protecting the surrounding surface.

In summary:
Grind enough to expose and lubricate that crack, then you can easily get your rusty nut off.


(Hey, let us know how that tool works out!)

16 posted on 04/06/2002 7:26:01 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: GRRRRR
Skip the fancy tool. Invest in a can of BreakFree or WD-40, and go to town.
17 posted on 04/06/2002 7:52:58 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: OKSooner
Hose 'em down with WD40 or other penetrating oil..

Not to start an argument 'r nothin', but WD-40 ain't no oil. It's a solvent that is designed to displace water (hence WD - water displacement). Yes, it does penetrate and to provide some *temporary* lubrication (which subsequently evaporates).

Stick with products that are intended for the purpose: Liquid Wrench, Break Free, etc. Several good soakings, allowed it sit, more soakings. Then hit it with a conventional wrench or a pair of Vice Grips. Forget the gimmick tools.

18 posted on 04/06/2002 3:43:57 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: GRRRRR
Try some 'PB BLASTER- Penetating Catalyst' on those rusty nuts. The stuff always worked for me.
19 posted on 04/06/2002 7:17:20 PM PST by Jasper
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To: The Other Harry
Cool. I always wondered what the difference was between WD40 and other stuff, I always thought it was just a VERY light oil. I know it's a BAD choice for gun lubrication because it will actually penetrate the primers of your ammo if it gets on them. Friends don't let friends buy Gator Grips...
20 posted on 04/07/2002 8:08:33 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner
Ahhhh...on second thought.....I got all summer why rush in to things so quickly...The doors still close fine and it's raining today...Now, where's the remote???

GRRRRRRRRollin

21 posted on 04/07/2002 2:48:35 PM PDT by GRRRRR
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To: GRRRRR
Cool. Just hose 'em down with Liquid Wrench or Breakfree, and then do what I do. Get back to it later...
22 posted on 04/07/2002 3:29:01 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: GRRRRR
My uncle (a farmer) bought one of those gator grip thingys a couple of years back. It lasted all of two days I think..before he broke it.
23 posted on 04/07/2002 3:35:58 PM PDT by Happygal
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To: GRRRRR

I use and heartily recommend The "blue tip wrench" by "nut-be-gone"
24 posted on 04/07/2002 3:52:09 PM PDT by damnlimey
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To: GRRRRR
Even if it works perfectly as advertised, its diameter is too large if the offending bolt is right next to an obstruction. Either Proto or Snap-On make sockets that are designed to grip the flanks of the nut rather than the points, and they work well.

The best penetrant I've found, oddly enough, is Marvel Mystery Oil. I keep some in a squirt bottle, and use it on rusty bolts, preferably applying the day before I actually start working on the project.

25 posted on 04/07/2002 5:53:08 PM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: GRRRRR
Tried liquid wrench and WD40, but the very best is "B'laster" made by B'laster/B.C.C.I. Cleveland, OH 1-800-858-6605. (We call it Blaster) All the garages use it.
26 posted on 04/13/2002 4:01:09 PM PDT by Rudder
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