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Israelites Were In America Before Columbus
Ensign Message ^ | Pastor Alan Campbell

Posted on 04/16/2002 4:19:58 PM PDT by blam

ISRAELITES WERE IN AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBUS!

By

Pastor Alan Campbell

1992 marked the 500th Anniversary of Columbus' voyage of discovery from Spain to what was then known as the New World in 1492. No doubt there were those who who exploited the celebration of this event to emphasize the Hispanic as opposed to the Anglo-Saxon element in American Culture and society. However it is becoming an increasingly well known and documented fact, that not only were there North Europeans on the American continent long before the voyage of Columbus, but also that Phoenicians/ Israelites sailed from the Middle East through the Mediterranean and across the Atlantic to these shores centuries before the birth of Christ.

I became aware of these exciting facts of suppressed history during my first visit to the United States in 1984. While attending the AMERICA'S PROMISE MINISTRIES camp in New Mexico that year, I was able to visit the site at Los Lunas, near Albuquerque, and see the rock with the Ten Commandments carved in the ancient script.

My curiosity being aroused, I went on to study the books Saga America and America B.C. by Professor Barry Fell of Harvard University, also Cyrus Gordon's Before Columbus and They All Discovered America by Charles Boreland; from these books and various other research items the following facts emerge:

THE PHOENICIANS CAME TO AMERICA

The term Phoenician is a general one, which covers not only the seafaring peoples based in the ancient cities of Tyre and Sidon (on the coast of modern Lebanon) but also the sea-roving Israelite tribes of Dan, Asher and Zebulon, whose tribal territories in Canaan were adjacent to these city states on the East Mediterranean coastline. These peoples planted trading posts and mercantile colonies along the shores of north Africa and Spain, and they engaged in a flourishing tin trade in the southwest corner of the British Isles, their ships passing through the Straits of Gibralter, then known as the 'Pillars of Hercules'.

As long ago as 1913, author T. C. Johnston in his book Did The Phoenicians Discover America? claimed that the American continent was discovered and settled by Phoenicians and Hebrews who kept in contact with the Middle East for some three hundred years. He clairned that North America was the Biblical Ophir, visited by the fleets of King Solomon, and he outlined some twenty-six points of comparison between the civilization of the Eastern Mediterranean homelands of the Phoenicians and Hebrews and the Mayan, Inca and Aztec civilizations in the New World.

More research by Professor Barry Fells points to Punic or Phoenician inscriptions found in New England, Ohio and West Virginia, and also the discovery of coinage and trade goods in the United States which had come from the Phoenician city of Carthage in North Africa.

THE ANCIENT CELTS CAME TO AMERICA

The name Celts was the designation given to those peoples who emerged from the same geographical location where the so called 'Lost Tribes of Israel' had disappeared from at an earlier stage of world history. These people migrated across Europe to settle in the British Isles and the coasts of France and Spain. They were a well organized sea power at the time when Julius Caesar and his Roman legions invaded Britain in 55 B.C.; and he, in fact, makes reference to their ocean-going vessels. Professor Fell has now identified the megalithic structures at Mystery Hill, New Hampshire as a type of temple observatory dedicated to the ancient Celtic sun-god Bel (it was for worshipping this same Baal that their Israelite ancestors had been cast out of Palestine). He claims that other sites dedicated to this same deity and to other Celtic gods and goddesses have been located in Vermont, together with Celtic burial urns and other artifacts.

THE IRISH AND WELSH WERE IN AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBUS

It has been rightly said that when the Norsemen/Scandinavians arrived in North America in the Tenth Century, they found that the Irish had got there before them. Although sceptics have ridiculed the legends of the Irish monk Brendan and his journey to America in a hide-covered boat known as a coracle, yet a reconstruction of the voyage in recent times has demonstrated that the route described in the legends from Ireland to Newfoundland, and on to Florida by way of the Bahamas is indeed accurate. It also seems likely that Culdees from the ancient Celtic Church in Ireland, fleeing the sea raids of the still pagan Vikings, followed Brendan's route, seeking refuge first in Iceland, then Greenland, Newfoundland and finally, deep into North America, where they disappear, perhaps giving rise to the traditions common to the Aztecs, lncas and Mayas, of visits by bearded white men.

Legends and traditions also persist that a Welsh Prince named Madog and his followers, fleeing from violence and bloodshed in Wales, escaped by ship and, using ancient Celtic maps and charts, crossed the Atlantic and landed on American soil at Mobile Bay in 1170 A.D.. Moving inland, they built fortified settlements in Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee, giving rise to later claims of discovery of 'Welsh Indians' between the mid 1500's and early 1800's. George Catlin believed that he had traced the descendants of these Welsh settlers among the Mandan Indians, many of whom were blue-eyed and whose language contained elements of Welsh.(There is a plaque here at the mouth of Mobile Bay, at Ft. Morgan, commerating the landing by Prince Madoc in 1170AD.)

THE SCANDINAVIANS PRECEDED COLUMBUS BY 500 YEARS

Less open to question or dispute than any of the other groups I have mentioned, is the coming of the Norse or Scandinavian explorers and settlers whose activities in North America lasted from before 1000 A.D. to the late 1300's. The names which immediately spring to mind are those of Bjarni Herjulfon, Eric the Red and his son Leif Ericsson. These Viking settlers travelled from Greenland to New England, which Leif called Vinland because of the abundance of wild grapes found there; at least one building, the Newport Church Tower, still stands as evidence of these pre-Columbian Norse settlements.

CONCLUSION

In light of these few brief facts which I have outlined, it is now obvious that the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob did indeed 'spread abroad to the West' (Genesis 28:14) as Almighty God had promised. They had in fact discovered, traded with, and even for a time made settlements in North America, long before Columbus reached the West Indies in 1492.

By all means let us pay tribute to the achievements Columbus made, but let us as Christian Israelites do our best to bring before our people the increasing evidence of the pre-Columbian history of America, which clearly shows God's Covenant people staking claim to their New Promised Land from the very earliest times.


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KEYWORDS: decalogue; godsgravesglyphs; israelites; loslunas; tencommandments
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1 posted on 04/16/2002 4:19:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
The stone in question


2 posted on 04/16/2002 4:49:36 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: LostTribe;farmfriend;sawsalimb;RightWhale;ValerieUSA;JudyB1938;crystalk
Fyi. (comments?)
3 posted on 04/16/2002 5:31:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: Tennessee_Bob;4ConservativeJustices
Very interesting subject :)
4 posted on 04/16/2002 5:35:40 PM PDT by Ff--150
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To: Ff--150
Haven't read the articles that go along with this - glanced over this one before I went and googled the picture. But the picture itself brings up an interesting question.

If this stone truly predates Columbus, how do you explain how fresh the paleo-Hebrew writing appears as opposed to the other grafitti on the stone behind it?

5 posted on 04/16/2002 5:42:13 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: blam
>The name Celts was the designation given to those peoples who emerged from the same geographical location where the so called 'Lost Tribes of Israel' had disappeared from at an earlier stage of world history. These people migrated across Europe to settle in the British Isles and the coasts of France and Spain....

He's right on the money, as far as this part goes. For more, click on my Profile.

6 posted on 04/16/2002 5:45:09 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: blam
One of my favorites...

America B.C. by Barry Fell of Harvard.

7 posted on 04/16/2002 5:53:26 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: Tennessee_Bob
The writing on the stone looks faked. Probably a creation in the 1800s.
8 posted on 04/16/2002 5:54:44 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: blam
> ...The term Phoenician is a general one, which covers not only the seafaring peoples based in the ancient cities of Tyre and Sidon (on the coast of modern Lebanon) but also the sea-roving Israelite tribes of Dan, Asher and Zebulon, whose tribal territories in Canaan were adjacent to these city states on the East Mediterranean coastline. These peoples planted trading posts and mercantile colonies along the shores of north Africa and Spain, and they engaged in a flourishing tin trade in the southwest corner of the British Isles,

Also accurate, but parts of the tribe of Judah, lead by Judahs son Zara were also part of these "early leavers" by sea from Egypt ~1600 BC, which correlates timewise with your theory of the massive volcanic eruption at Thera.

I believe it was these seagoing Israelites who came to America BC and left such large traces, rather than the traditional Lost Tribes of Israel who did not escape from Assyria until a thousand years later, ~600 BC. Perhaps it was both?

9 posted on 04/16/2002 6:05:18 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
Best be careful. There's a cabal of hyenas on FR who will accuse you of being a Morman for making claims like that.
10 posted on 04/16/2002 6:18:33 PM PDT by uglybiker
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To: LostTribe
Carthaginians In The New World
11 posted on 04/16/2002 6:35:11 PM PDT by blam
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To: LostTribe
I have always believed that there was a lot more traveling going on then anyone dreams of now days. Our ancestors were no where near as stationary as we once thought.

a.cricket

12 posted on 04/16/2002 6:37:54 PM PDT by another cricket
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To: uglybiker
>Best be careful. There's a cabal of hyenas on FR who will accuse you of being a Morman for making claims like that.

GGG. I've been called worse. But I am not...

Howz the weather around Cottonwood? I like it there.

13 posted on 04/16/2002 6:43:32 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: another cricket
>I have always believed that there was a lot more traveling going on then anyone dreams of now days. Our ancestors were no where near as stationary as we once thought.

I agree with that. Traders, missionaries, military, outlaws, adventurers and tourists have itchy feet and are not about to stay in one place for long. (I don't believe Jesus did either, between his 12th and ~30th birthdays.)

Just for fun, take a good big map of NW Europe and plot a line in the water around the shoreline about 100 miles out from shore. The Vikings could go that far on a bad day, and double it on a good one.

Then imagine you are sailing in a boat and are fearful of losing sight of shore, or at least for very long. How far is the horizon, maybe 30-50 miles, depending on what's on the shore? Then see how far you can sail without losing sight of shore. It is astounding!

Then imagine you have sailed these waters a lot and are no longer fearful of losing sight of shore for a day or so since you know you can always turn around and come back to known territory. Try hopping from island to island and sail from Bergen Norway to Greenland, via Iceland.

Play with the numbers however you will, you end up concluding that it really wasn't that big a deal for the Vikings to come to America. It certainly wasn't an unreasonable and ridiculous idea. And if you do the same for the Med area, navigating that territory and along the Spanish and French shore to England a thousand or two years earlier is peanuts. (Not drowning might be another story...)

14 posted on 04/16/2002 7:03:45 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: blam;Ff--150
Interesting stuff! I had heard (and read) about the vikings, but this is news to me. I think that our ancient ancestors were not wimpy, and easily traversed the oceans of the world long before Columbus et al.

Good post.

15 posted on 04/16/2002 7:22:40 PM PDT by 4CJ
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To: blam
Vikings, Celts and the like okay. Ancient Israelites? I feel sorry for anyone who believes that.
16 posted on 04/16/2002 7:28:37 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Gods, Graves, Glyphs
17 posted on 04/16/2002 8:27:55 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Hmmm....Zechariah Sitchin has also made the claim that Semitic peoples were present in North and South America sometime way back when. (Yes,I'm aware that Sitchin has a tinfoil hat reputation,of sorts,but I've read some of his work,and it's pretty hard to argue it down)
18 posted on 04/16/2002 8:46:46 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: LostTribe;blam,
Farley Mowatt(sp?) has also written an interesting book:The Farfarers

He's postulating that prior to the vikings,Iceland,Greenland,the Maritime Provinces,and parts of the far northeastern United States were settled by a people of Celtic-and Christian-background. Mowatt makes it clear that a long voyage(i.e. Europe to North America)in an open boat without high tech gear of navigational aids isn't nearly as impossible as a lot of people like to think it is.(apologies for the off-topic post,btw)

19 posted on 04/16/2002 8:56:46 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: sawsalimb
>Celtic-and Christian-background

What was his dating? Do you recall if reconciles the Celts not being Christians, at least until the time of Christ of course? Some of the earliest Christians were in fact Celts, those in Galatia (Turkey) and other near areas to whom the Apostles were sent.

20 posted on 04/16/2002 9:01:34 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: sawsalimb
>Zechariah Sitchin has also made the claim that Semitic peoples were present in North and South America sometime way back when.

If it is sometime after ~1600 BC then a case could be made that it was some of the "sea people", early Israelite leavers from Egypt.

21 posted on 04/16/2002 9:03:50 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
Idiot that I am,I loaned the book out,and don't have it in front of me,so what follows is from memory. Don't bet the ranch on it.

IIRC,the people he was talking about were from somewhere in France,and were pushed out by the Romans. They the settled in the British Isles,but gradually were pushed out of the Isles proper by population pressure and wars. They wound up in the Faeroe Islands and Orkney Islands,and lived mostly be trading walrus Ivory and other high value items like that,as well as fishing.

They were gradually pushed to the west by the Vikings,and were finally absorbed by the Esquimo tribes. Sorry-can't recall any dates as to their adption of Christianity.

22 posted on 04/16/2002 9:15:31 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: sawsalimb
 
>IIRC,the people he was talking about were from somewhere in France,and were pushed out by the Romans.

That could put them in the Christian era at least, so that much fits.

>They were gradually pushed to the west by the Vikings,

Hmmm.  I didn't realize the Vikings actually "pushed" anyone in front of them. Running to escape, maybe.  Interesting thought...

>and were finally absorbed by the Esquimo tribes.

The idea that some Vikings (or their equivalent) mated with early Canadian Indians (900 AD) is an old and accepted one in parts of Canadian Inuit lore.  Also used to explain the Blue-Eyed Mandan Indians of Montana, etc......

23 posted on 04/16/2002 9:22:29 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: blam
Very interesting article and website. Thanks for posting it.
24 posted on 04/16/2002 9:23:56 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: blam;Gods, Graves, Glyphs;
OK

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25 posted on 04/17/2002 12:12:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: blam
I had never heard that the British were a great seagoing nation before the Viking invasion. My reading of history was that everyone was always invading England both before and after the Romans since the English Channel wasn't so much a barrier as a wide open highway (in the days before roads sea travel was far easier than travel overland). The Vikings just devastated Britain because their fleets (sometimes of several hundred vessels) would appeal out of nowhere, like alien spaceships, sail up rivers, attack towns, rape women, while their terrified husband stood by shamefaced. Then came William the Conquerer from Normandy (a French speaking Viking) who infused the British with warrior blood, made them an empire-building, seafaring nation and no one ever successfully invaded England again.
26 posted on 04/17/2002 2:00:23 AM PDT by DentsRun
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To: Tennessee_Bob
I would hazard a guess that this stone was inscribed at around the same time so many "Viking rune stones" were being "discovered" in America. It is interesting how some of the most famous rune stones were discovered in areas were Scandanavians settled in the 1800s.
27 posted on 04/17/2002 4:26:15 AM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: blam
LINK to Scholarly Article on Welsh Legend of Prince Madoc</>

THE PLAQUE IN QUESTION WAS PLACED THERE IN 1953 BY THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. LOL

28 posted on 04/17/2002 4:37:37 AM PDT by flying Elvis
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Statue recovered from an Olmec (big Negroid heads) archaeological site in Mexico

29 posted on 04/17/2002 5:04:33 AM PDT by blam
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To: flying Elvis
(from your link)

"The Lord Madoc, sonne of Owen Gwyndd prince of NorthWales, leaving his brothers in contention, and warre for their inheritance sought, by sea (westerlie from Irland), for some forein, and—Region to plant hymselfe in with soveranity: wth Region when he had found, he returned to Wales againe and hym selfe wth Shipps, vituals, and men and women sufficient for the coloniy, wth spedely he leed into the peninsula; then named Farquara; but of late Florida or into some of the Provinces, and territories neere ther abouts: and in Apalchen, Mocosa, or Norombera: then of these 4 beinge notable portions of the ancient Atlantis, no longer—nowe named America16".

I did not think it was called America at this time, 1170AD?

30 posted on 04/17/2002 5:18:35 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The Olmecs of Mexico

31 posted on 04/17/2002 5:21:00 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Another Olmec head in Mexico

32 posted on 04/17/2002 5:28:35 AM PDT by blam
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To: Moonmad27

More statues found in Olmec digs

33 posted on 04/17/2002 5:38:30 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
A few burials, one near Columbus Ga., one at Bat Creek in east Tennessee, written up a few yrs back in Bib Arch Rview, ...coins of Bar Kokhba found in Ky, Tenn, GA...

It is not to be doubted that Jewish diehards fleeing the Roman takeover after the fall of Bar Kokhba (AD 135) fled to the present USA.

As to earlier arrivals, Jonah may have been bound here, since "Tarshish" referred to anything so far west that one had to sail out of Gibraltar to reach it...

34 posted on 04/17/2002 6:41:17 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: blam
are these guys doing the cabbage patch or what?
35 posted on 04/17/2002 7:32:22 AM PDT by teeman8r
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To: blam
Your #29 and #33 pics look like stuff that's come out of middle east digs. The #29 post in particular. Whoever the artist's model for those statues was,he assuredly was not of Native American ancestry.(Unless we're ready to revise our definition of "Native American" a bit.)
36 posted on 04/17/2002 8:07:13 AM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: blam
In fact,the statue in #33 looks almost like an oriental,to me,although there's room for argument. Still,if I had to bet,I'd say "Mongol or Chinese".
37 posted on 04/17/2002 8:10:31 AM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: sawsalimb
"In fact,the statue in #33 looks almost like an oriental,to me,although there's room for argument. Still,if I had to bet,I'd say "Mongol or Chinese"."

Yup. The point is that there were a lot of 'different' people down there 'running around' with the Olmecs, 1300BC-600BC.

38 posted on 04/17/2002 12:02:42 PM PDT by blam
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Norombera: then of these 4 beinge notable portions of the ancient Atlantis, no longer—nowe named America16". As William Sherman has commented, "In Dee's 1576-1578 manuscripts Madoc became the linchpin of claims for North America

Exactly. It was called American at the time of Dee's writings though.

39 posted on 04/17/2002 12:47:49 PM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: flying Elvis
italics off
40 posted on 04/17/2002 12:48:26 PM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: blam
American continent was discovered and settled by Phoenicians and Hebrews who kept in contact with the Middle East for some three hundred years.

If there was a contact with the old world and these people came all the way to the New Mexico area, wouldn't it make sense that the indigenous peoples would have picked up a little of the technology from these strangers, like the wheel?

41 posted on 04/17/2002 1:27:53 PM PDT by doubled
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"If there was a contact with the old world and these people came all the way to the New Mexico area, wouldn't it make sense that the indigenous peoples would have picked up a little of the technology from these strangers, like the wheel?"

You would think so huh. But then again, they didn't have any roads, did they? A better question might be, "Why didn't they all 'catch' the diseases from the old world and die then, instead of waiting for the Europeans of the 1400-1500's?" (I do believe there was travel between the new/old world in ancient times. I've always wondered about this 'disease thing' though.)

42 posted on 04/17/2002 2:46:59 PM PDT by blam
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Well, let's see, Italian, Jewish, Israeli, Portuguese, Norwegian, Indians, Mongolians, etc. Anybody else on the bandwagon?

I wonder which one is the truth?
43 posted on 10/13/2002 6:17:13 PM PDT by Coleus
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45 posted on 03/26/2011 6:28:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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The Mayan Calendar was built by Enoch along with supposedly Job. The Ancients talked of Bearded White Men who came and built the calendar and then left.


46 posted on 03/26/2011 6:43:29 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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"The Mayan Calendar was built by Enoch along with supposedly Job. The Ancients talked of Bearded White Men who came and built the calendar and then left.

Who said they left?

Kuelap - The Machu Picchu Of Northern Peru (Chachapoyas - White, blonde haired people)

47 posted on 03/26/2011 11:03:07 AM PDT by blam
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“few brief facts “

I didn’t read any facts, just stories about other people claiming to have facts.


48 posted on 03/26/2011 11:26:12 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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Well, we know Enoch and supposedly Job did leave. But the other whites were throughout the Americas that is where the white Indians came from. Then you have that find off of Oregon's coast of an ancient white man much older than had ever been discovered before. Now we have the dig north of Austin, TX...in which more white people lived.

Scientists: The first Americans may have been Texans

49 posted on 03/26/2011 12:33:44 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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"Then you have that find off of Oregon's coast of an ancient white man much older than had ever been discovered before."

I don't know about this one. Are you talking about Kennewick Man, in Washington State?

50 posted on 03/26/2011 2:16:36 PM PDT by blam
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