Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!

Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

[clearvision]

Well Excel says median of 30 and 60 is 45....

[John Jamieson]

The way I understand it, the whole case rests on the kidnapping. If he didn't kidnap her, the murder charge falls too. The charge was a murder during a kidnapping, which seems to be different under CA law than the usual MS1, MS2, Murder1 and Murder2.

If DW had help, the case falls because he's not charged with being part of a conspiracy (I think).

[UCANSEE2]

Please welcome 'imready' to the DW threads !!!!!!!!!

GOLDEN COMMENTS ON THE DW THREADS

convicted felons can't vote unless their rights have been restored or they are democrats
by rolling_stone

"Well, EXCUSE me, Mr. Feldman, what's a couple of math errors? We have a dead child, a beautiful little girl, brutally murdered by a monster, deposited like TRASH, on the side of the road, and YOU'RE concerned with MATH?!" "Give me a BREAK"
! by spectre (sw)

I find it interesting that those without a political agenda ALL FIND HIM NOT GUILTY
by mouser

Best case scenario is a hung jury.
And you hear thunder before you see the lightning ?
up is down --war is peace. What color is the sky on your planet ?
by dread78645

"A Fly Lie for the prosecution."
by dread78645

Bottom line is, Dusek should not have reopened his taken this case. If they really wanted a conviction, I don't know why Dusek was selected. Maybe he IS the sacrificial lamb after all.
by Southflanknorthpawsis

sshhh i'm hunting wabbits
by countess

Looks to me like some people have had to resort to grasping at fibers.
by bolthead

William Wallace suffered less than Goff did today.
by John Jamieson

That goofy mascot of the SD Padres has long orange fibers all over it...maybe Mudd did it.
by demsux

(AND MY FAVORITE, by JUDGE MUDD)

THE COURT: WE DEFINITELY HAVE ADMITTED UNTRUTHFULNESSES .
by Karson

AND THE NEW GOLDEN COMMENTS

Thanks for pointing that out! It's an interesting coincidence..but everything has to have a margin of error...I'd say at least 3-4 days give or take.. (in danielle's case anyway)
By ~Kim4VRWC's~

"I have plotted the data here in 4 dimensions, using time, temperature, dewpoint, and solar insolance, using a 5 sigma probablity matrix and 16 polynominal regression analysis. I gathered weather data from three geometrically obtuse locations using GPS and NWS data, corrected for distance and wind direction, velocity, and turbulance. Using the exact altitude of the Dehesa location, we can see here that the first 2 duds were right."
by John Jamieson

Judge Mudd just announced that he will sequester the jury...
AFTER THE TRIAL HAS ENDED AND MR. WESTERFIELD HAS BEEN CONVICTED AND SENTENCED TO DEATH BY LETHAL INJECTION.
by basscleff

The end justifies the medians.
by shezza

Everyone likes the bugs better than the lawyers.
by VRWC_minion

Did you hear that? Judge told the jury to NOT form an opinion..
by ~Kim4VRWC's~

Bug guy #945 just agreed with the other 943 and said time of dead was around feb 12 give or take 2-3 days.
Feldman had a knock out
Dusek had a melt down
We lost our appetites
Dusek believes this case lives or dies on the bug evidence.
Westerfield walks broke
Killer is still on the loose
hows that

by basscleff

[John Jamieson]

"Said the media was blurring the facts, and the defense has proved that DW could not have dumped the body."

Both very true.

[Spunky]

Rick Roberts breaks in with another child kipnap case.................... Naturally, all this info gets in while Feldman is doing his cross

.I noticed that also. It has happened during this whole trial while I have been watching CTV.

[cyncooper]

they tying in kidnapping, murder, and dumping the body?

I think if found guilty of kidnapping AND murder that is what forms the special circumstance that qualifies for the death penalty.

The defense wants the jury to have the option of just first degree murder without kidnapping. They posited to the judge that one reasonable explanation of her presence in the MH was by invitation. However, the judge pointed out that the parents hadn't given permission therefore even that scenario would be considered kidnapping.

At this point, then, the judge says the felony murder with kidnapping is the most reasonable because she would only be in DW's possession by kidnapping--no innocent reason.

[John Jamieson]

Interesting, I'll try some other examples.

[Freedom2specul8]

I protest

that comment about 3-4 days wasn't made on the vd threads. we should limit to these threads... :)

[Freedom2specul8]

Even attys can turn down cases if they want. Be back in a few to write more.

[clearvision]

Are you saying it is not in evidence?....

[UCANSEE2]

I am confused. That is where I saw it, and copied it from.

[John Jamieson]

Excel calcs
45
50
95
100
97
32
54
67

Average (mean)67.5
Median 60.5

I think most mathamaticians would say the median is undefined for 2 points, but Excel just goes ahead and uses the average. For more than two points they are different.

I'd give the bugspert an A.

[cyncooper]

You mean "aye".

I'll abstain!

[dread78645]

> I protest

> that comment about 3-4 days wasn't made on the vd threads. we should limit to these threads... :)

OK THIS IS FREE REPUBLIC AFTER ALL LET'S HAVE A VOTE

I say keep it for 3-4 days.
Then strike it.

[UCANSEE2]

Why not be proud of your work. Have a sense of humor.

I promise, you can call me the PRESIDENT of the DW FAN CLUB !