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[weikel]

I do not like the lady of the House of Dole myself but carpetbagging is irrelevant and even though she is a contemptible RINO thats no reason to vote for the Dem unless hes some very conservative Trafficant type who sides with the Repubs on both issues and procedure.

[Askel5]

Now, I'm not a Democrat. Haven't been one since 1994 when I changed to Republican,

This schtick only works for Elected Officials. You know ... the sort that gave us our "GOP" Congress and Senate:

A Salute to the GOP Congress

The Republican Betrayal

The RLC: Top GOP RINO's Push Democratic Agenda
(Or--particularly with abortion--is it the other way around?)

Why the Senate is Corrupt?

The Third Way: Eradicating the U.S. Constitution By Design

Schippers Speaks

Senate Roll Call, Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 1999
Defective Children Database: To What Use Will the Feds Put It? , also here
Senate Passes Hate Crimes Bill
Senate to Vote on PNTR Today! Byrd: "A virus infects the Senate."

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And I want to add OWK's laundry list of GOP Congressional Accomplishments. Incremental Conservatism in Action !!

National ID Cards
Expanded (no warrant) wiretap authority for FBI
A national database for “employed people”
Asset seizure for Americans who establish foreign citizenship
The power to declare ANY group as “terrorist” without possibility of appeal (and subsequent monitoring of said groups)
Authorization of “secret trials” for “terrorists”
A national medical database with federal access
100 pages of new “health care crimes” and authorization of asset seizure for said crimes
Funding for the war in Kosovo without Constitutional authority
Continued funding for troops in Bosnia without Constitutional authority
Renewed funding for the NEA
Renewed funding for the NEH
Legislation harassing tobacco companies
Tobacco subsidies
Sugar subsidies
Ethanol subsidies
Agriculture subsidies
The largest Pork legislation in the history of the republic (highways)
IRS reform voted down
IMF bailout with taxpayer money
Russian bailout with taxpayer money
Forgiveness of debt of Billions in third world loans
Expanded federal involvement in education
Sham investigation of China money
Sham investigation of Waco
Restriction of Executive orders voted down
Mandatory restrictions on firearms transactions
Banning of high-capacity magazines

5 Posted on 08/22/2000 10:58:05 PDT by DAnconia55
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To: forest

I appreciate Fiedor's article [Crackdown on Constitutional Scofflaws] and your posting of it. But the problem is not the law. The problem is the body politic which ignores it and/or violates it flagrantly and with utter impunity.

It is the essence of Clinton's legacy, that he taught us all that the people, with precious few (and brave) exceptions, have no will to do the tedious work of maintaining the rule of law.

As Fiedor himself actually demonstrates, there is no need for another law to make explicit the intention of our Constitution: It couldn't be clearer. If the people won't adhere to those principles, another law won't miraculously restore to them their sense of duty.

The near perfection of our Constitution will be made obvious by one of only two ways. Either we will succeed in our dogged determination to rouse our friends and neighbors from their self-absorption and educate them in time to reclaim our heritage. Or they will learn the brutal truth of tyranny firsthand and taste the bitter regret of loss.

If we fail today, our children and grandchildren will trace a familiar path: they will fight for liberty once again, and, having gained it, they will do the hard work of constructing a framework for governing a free and independent people.

The damage done to our Constitution cannot be remedied by a quick-fix new law. It will be the work of at least one whole generation. Please God, let it be ours, and let us succeed.

6 Posted on 06/10/2000 18:10:20 PDT by Wife of D28Man
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The State and the Soul

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The Inner Ring: On Making Good Men Do Bad Things (C.S. Lewis)

Take care, Darth ... all the best and, uh, let's watch the speed through intersections, eh?

[L,TOWM]

OOOOOOH OOOOOOOOH I know! I know!

That would be, why 1932 of course (just before the election)...

[BluesDuke]

Since I don't live in North Carolina, I don't have the burden of having to vote for either Pineapple Dole or the Dem there. And I don't necessarily think it would do us that many favours getting the Senate out of Tom Douchebag's hands just to reinstate another version of Trent Lost in his place. Where I do live, however, the Damnocrats are idiots and the Republican'ts are fools. I think I'd be better off voting for the Mad Hatter, myself.

[mrsmith]

Youth does seem to be a common factor among the Freepers I like who are getting in trouble.

I don't know what Jim can do about it.

"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever. " - Napoleon Bonaparte

[gratefulwharffratt]

But hasn't lived there for how long?

Dole HASN'T lived in North Carolina for almost as long as Jesse Helms HASN'T lived in North Carolina.

It is tres difficile to serve in the Federal Government (or if your husband does) from Davidson County, North Carolina. (Or in Libby Dole's case, from Rowan County)

[MozarkDawg]

The trouble is, too many people believe in generous government - which can only be generous with other people's money. ;)

Dawgsquat wonders why they can't be as generous which Other People's Cigarettes! :)

[Dominic Harr]

Maybe "statist" would be a better word, but maybe not...

I'm a systems analyst, so I tend to use the word that describes the system.

What we have is 2 parties who both believe in collective solutions to problems.

I believe from a 'functional analysis' point of view, the real battle is individualism (conservatism) v. collectivism (liberalism).

The R pary is liberal. Collectivist. And I have no interest in furthering the cause of the R party, because by doing so you're furthering the cause of collectivism continuing to dominate America.

Unfortunate.

[MozarkDawg]

Dole HASN'T lived in North Carolina for almost as long as Jesse Helms HASN'T lived in North Carolina.

You need to explain this comment to me -- what do you mean Helms hasn't lived in NC?

[BluesDuke]

Dawgsquat wonders why they can't be as generous which Other People's Cigarettes! :)

Might as well ask why baloney rejects the grinder, dear.

[MotleyGirl70]

I agree with you all the way. Well said.

No more RINO's needed. We have enough of those as it is.

He could always come back with the screename John McCaan.

[MozarkDawg]

... even though she is a contemptible RINO thats no reason to vote for the Dem unless hes some very conservative Trafficant type who sides with the Repubs on both issues and procedure.

Which is why, were I a resident of North Carolina, I would excercise my private "None of the Above" choice.

[gratefulwharffratt]

what do you mean Helms hasn't lived in NC?

He is a Senator, and has been for about 30 years. When he was elected, he, like everyone else serving in the Federal Government, moved to DC. He may keep a North Carolina residence, and live here when the Senate is not in session, but he spends MOST of his time in DC.

Also, Libby Dole's husband was a Senator for much of the time since she last served in a Federal job. If your husband is a Senator, would YOU live 350 miles away from him, just so you could keep a North Carolina address??

[joanie-f]

Re: your #140?

You are indeed a dreamer.

Also a master of sarcasm.

Thanks for number two. It often 'makes my day'. :)

[Darth Dan]

May the Force be with you, Darth

[deport]

May want to ping MADJOE also

[SauronOfMordor]

I think the item that did it was:

Say what you will of the Libertarians (and I'm not one, BTW). But insisting that there are only two parties - and that your own is inherently "good" - smacks of stagnancy and short-sightedness. Proprietor of this joint though you are, you can't deny that if both major parties haven't run out of steam already, they're about to. And I ain't calling anyone a fool but they're foolish to keep insisting that voting any single party across the board is the best hope for America. Both major parties are corrupted by power - they exist only for power - and there's no justifying a substitution of one for the other.

In post # 557 in The Democratic Party is Beyond Corrupt thread

I happen to agree with Darth. The Republican hierarchy is getting to be as corrupt as the Dems. If the Libertarians gained power, it would corrupt them too. That's why the founders tried to limit the size and power of the federal government, in order to limit the amount of corruption that would happen

[MozarkDawg]

If your husband is a Senator, would YOU live 350 miles away from him, just so you could keep a North Carolina address??

She didn't stay in DC when Bob went home to Kansas -- she lived in KANSAS with him. I still want to know why, if she was so hot and bothered to be a member of the US Senate, she didn't run for the seat from Kansas, not NC. (Unless it was going to be easier for her in NC, as with Bill's Wife-In-Name-Only and NY).

Now that I understand your comment on Helms, I'll grant you that point. Why I have been a big supporter of the "Cut their pay and send them home" movement. It's disgraceful when elected members of either chamber complain that it's "too inconvenient" for them to go back to the hometown more often than just the month-long breaks and campaign season.

[Liberal Classic]

Thanks for pointing that out.

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --Lord Acton

Thus the need for a government constitutionally empowered to do a limited number of legitimate things. He struck me as an ex-Democrat, which is something this country needs more of.

[dubyagee]

The GOP leadership, including Bush for meddling with our elections before the primary, deserves more than just a little spite. They need humbling. I'll gladly cast my vote for Bowles if that's what it takes to bring it to 'em.

Well, I reserved judgement until I got to gratefulwharfrat's post with additional comments from Darth, including the above.

Now I say...way to go Jimrob!