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The Guild 6-5-2003 Need to vent about Hillary's book - This is the place
SFGate ^ | 6-4-2003 | CALVIN WOODWARD and SIOBHAN McDONOUGH

Posted on 06/05/2003 3:53:29 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:42:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Hillary Rodham Clinton shows her softer side in her new book, taking some responsibility for "botching" health care reform and not being sensitive enough to people who thought she should be a traditional first lady.

But the New York senator does not apologize for the causes she felt passionate about.


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To: lodwick
One's of people will be rusing out to buy this pos book.

Even the cover of the book lies.

51 posted on 06/06/2003 5:42:29 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina
Hurl alert!!!!

June 6, 2003 -- HILLARY Clinton was prepared for questions about Monica Lewinsky on her upcoming TV interview with Barbara Walters - but she was caught off-guard when asked about reports the former President is a "womanizer."

"I ask her about other things that aren't in her book, [such as] the rumors that [ex-President Clinton] is a womanizer, and I questioned her about Gennifer Flowers and Paula Jones," Walters told The Post.

"She knew most of the questions [about Monica] were coming, but some of them she didn't know were coming, like whether [the ex-president] is a womanizer, and does she still think it was all a 'right-wing conspiracy,'" Walters says.

Former First Lady and now-Sen. Clinton granted her first sitdown interview to Walters - who interviewed Lewinsky in 1999 - to hype her $8-million memoir, "Living History."

Walters says that, despite all she's been through, Hillary seems at peace with herself - and her husband.

"She seems happy now," Walters says. "This is my impression: I think she feels comfortable in the Senate.

"One of the things we talked about - her book is not just about Monica - is how she works with the same people who were out to impeach her husband and destroy the president, like Tom DeLay.

"She says that she's no longer the First Lady, she's a senator, and she's learned to work with these people," Walters says.

Walters says she think Clinton is "past" all the rage and pain she felt when her husband told her that, yes, he did have an affair with Lewinsky - after Hillary had strenously defended him for eight months.

"I know there are people who say she knew [about the Lewinsky affair] all the time, but when you hear her talk with such rage and pain . . . it's impossible to believe she knew," Walters says.

"I think she is past that now. I think from what I can see from how she talks and looks . . . that Monica and all of that is past.

"It took a long time and a Senate race to help," Walters says. "I think she's in a good place now . . . I think her relationship with Bill is good, and whatever happens in the future, she doesn't have to deal with this again.

"There's a feeling about her that she's very cold and contained and brittle," she says. What you don't realize is what a religious woman she is. She talks about getting down on her knees [during the Lewinsky crisis] and praying, alone, at 3 a.m. It's very intimate."

Walters' interview with Clinton airs Sunday (7 p.m./Ch. 7).
52 posted on 06/06/2003 5:45:06 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Just because a house fell on your sister doesn't mean that you have to take it out on me.)
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To: BigWaveBetty
Hmmmmmm…first pic taken for the book cover……yet second pic taken during Hillary's first six months as Senator (re: Spring 2001)
Hmmmmmm... Airbrush,... botox,... radiance,... Photo Shop,... plastic surgery,... Dorian Gray,... DEAL WITH SATAN!!!,...
…you decide!!!

  


                 "Hmmmmm...I don't know, could it be...SATAN?!"

53 posted on 06/06/2003 5:47:03 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Just because a house fell on your sister doesn't mean that you have to take it out on me.)
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To: BigWaveBetty

How do you drive in that thing?

Could that be a modern burkha?
54 posted on 06/06/2003 5:51:21 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Just because a house fell on your sister doesn't mean that you have to take it out on me.)
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To: Carolina
I need to let the preview button be my friend...

TGIF guys!
55 posted on 06/06/2003 5:51:56 AM PDT by lodwick (The pie is not finite.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; *The GUILD

56 posted on 06/06/2003 5:54:58 AM PDT by lodwick (Attempting to make a Silk Purse...)
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To: *The GUILD
"Some people give without asking and remember every kindness. Perhaps this is love in its purest form."

~ Flavia ~
57 posted on 06/06/2003 5:59:10 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Carolina
My reaction to the 'Beaste's claim that, upon "finding out" about Monica, she gasped, couldn't breathe, etc., is to wonder whether she went through these same histrionics every time she learned about another of x42's dozens/hundreds of bimbos. I mean, he had been cheating on her since before they even were married, and possibly even impregnated a few while they either were engaged or married. She knew about all those Arkansas women. She knew about Gennifer Flowers. So is Monica the only one who ever made her choke? Funny, x42 probably is the only one who made Monica choke, too.
58 posted on 06/06/2003 6:00:50 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I think her relationship with Bill is good

That they see one another only about twice a year, and never actually sleep in the same house (or town, for that matter) probably contributes to that good relationship.

59 posted on 06/06/2003 6:03:14 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Funny, x42 probably is the only one who made Monica choke, too

Ewwwwww. Agggghh. Don't need that image.

60 posted on 06/06/2003 6:03:37 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina
The Dems have such a bunch of manly men aspiring to the presidency:

FORMER Vermont Gov. Howard Dean had quite a scare Tuesday night at Suite 16, where he hosted a fund-raiser for his long-shot presidential campaign. The liberal Democrat was in the middle of replying to a supporter's question about his stance on gun control when he heard what sounded like a gunshot.

"Dean's legs buckled and he ducked down," an eyewitness tells us. "But it turns out it was a blown speaker." After regaining his composure, Dean popped back up and quipped, "Wow, I guess someone doesn't like me talking about gun control." page six

61 posted on 06/06/2003 6:11:38 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
"Dean's legs buckled and he ducked down," an eyewitness tells us. "But it turns out it was a blown speaker."

Hahahahahahahaha....hehehehehehehehehehe...harharharharharharharharhar...ROTFLOL!!!

62 posted on 06/06/2003 6:14:05 AM PDT by Carolina
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SO WHAT were all those sailors, along with Bill Clinton and Kim Cattrall, doing onboard the newly commissioned "USS Mason" yesterday in New York Harbor? They were part of Tommy Hilfiger's launch of his new TH Entertainment company. LizSmith
63 posted on 06/06/2003 6:14:57 AM PDT by mountaineer
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Call it Basic High Jinks : A movie about Sen. Hillary Clinton has been put on the fast track at the A&E network - and execs there want Sharon Stone to portray the former First Lady.

A&E was inspired to rush the flick into production after the Associated Press leaked dramatic excerpts of the New York senator's upcoming book, "Living History," this week. In the memoir, the pol writes that she was heartbroken, outraged and dumbfounded after then-President Bill Clinton told her he'd had an affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

However, the movie won't be based on Clinton's memoir, but on Gail Sheehy's 2000 book "Hillary's Choice," which chronicled her life in the White House and public humiliation over the affair, as well as her Senate campaign.

A source familiar with the production told the Daily News' Donna Petrozzello that Stone tops the producers' wish list.

"We should be so lucky," he said.

Fortunately they don't have to worry about Sen. Clinton having veto power over casting.

Stone has been linked with the Clintons before: After the actress attended a policy conference with the then-President, Daily News columnist Mike Barnicle and screenwriter Joe Eszterhas, the "Showgirls" scripter openly referred to rumors that Bill was perhaps as close to Stone as to Lewinsky.

Stone is filming in Malta, and her agent said she wasn't aware of any offers for the role.

Hillary, meanwhile, will celebrate her book with a power-packed party at the Four Seasons restaurant on June 16.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/90020p-81886c.html
64 posted on 06/06/2003 6:19:46 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
"I know there are people who say she knew [about the Lewinsky affair] all the time, but when you hear her talk with such rage and pain . . . it's impossible to believe she knew," Walters says.

Hillary's rage and pain couldn't be from years of bill's bad behavior and worst of all getting caught at it. By republicans of all people! Nahhhhh!

Satan? Sure one can make a deal with one's self. :-)

65 posted on 06/06/2003 6:46:13 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: mountaineer
As with the limp-wrist military, they had have a "don't ask, don't tell" marriage.
66 posted on 06/06/2003 6:49:49 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: mountaineer
Come'on, the bad-aim Sinkmeister would never do that...someone might think that he had sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.

How 'bout that legacy?
67 posted on 06/06/2003 6:53:42 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Photo of hill on June 5, 2003.

the deal isn't working out. Must have been lots and lots and lots and lots...... of airbrushing.

68 posted on 06/06/2003 6:54:36 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: mountaineer
Maybe Rosie can dye her hair for the part of Hillary!.

Dachle: "I'm deeply concerned this floor might give way."

69 posted on 06/06/2003 7:01:17 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
LOL - great stuff.
70 posted on 06/06/2003 7:07:41 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: BigWaveBetty
She really is approaching a full axe-handle.
71 posted on 06/06/2003 7:08:30 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: mountaineer
Sharon Stone? Isn't she too young and attractive?

My thoughts concerning casting the title role leaned more toward Susan Sarandon in a blond wig. The attitude to portray her realistically is certainly there. When I think Hillary, I think angry. I just don't see that much anger in Stone.

72 posted on 06/06/2003 8:18:25 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: Carolina
The poor speaker blew in protest to Dean's boring presentation.

What a brave soul this man would be in a crisis. It reminds me of the time Jesse Jackson thought there were gunshots being fired on 'Meet the Press,' and it was a blown lightbulb.

Maybe Dean could propose making Jesse head of Homeland Security in his administration.

73 posted on 06/06/2003 8:29:21 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: pubmom
This role cries out for Kathy Bates


74 posted on 06/06/2003 8:35:56 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: pubmom
What a brave soul this man would be in a crisis. It reminds me of the time Jesse Jackson thought there were gunshots being fired on 'Meet the Press,' and it was a blown lightbulb.

Oh, yeah. I remember that. Wasn't it during the recount mess?

75 posted on 06/06/2003 8:45:10 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina; All
The San Francisco-based International Museum of Women is in talks with United States Senator Hillary Clinton and her daughter Chelsea to co-author a piece on inter-generational issues, according to an article in the Straits Times, link
76 posted on 06/06/2003 9:50:03 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
according to an article in the Straits Times,

Nothing shocks me anymore. However, I do believe a message of this type would have been more believable if it came from "The Kinky Times".

77 posted on 06/06/2003 10:13:32 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste great with Ketchup)
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To: mountaineer; Iowa Granny
Intergenerational issues---**shiver**

Ve vant your bloood.

78 posted on 06/06/2003 10:24:32 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina; Iowa Granny
Chelsea's greatest inter-generational issue is coping with having two unrepentant liars for parents.
79 posted on 06/06/2003 12:20:47 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
What you don't realize is what a religious woman she is.

Haha, oh, my sides.

She talks about getting down on her knees [during the Lewinsky crisis] and praying...

Leave it to Bwabwa to get it wrong. It was Lewinsky on her knees and I don't think praying describes it.

80 posted on 06/06/2003 2:21:07 PM PDT by MaeWest (Rather an unfortunate choice of words there, Babs, my dear.)
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To: MaeWest
I think it's something similar to the Priest telling the supplicant to "blow Gabriel's horn."
81 posted on 06/06/2003 5:21:29 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: BigWaveBetty
Wow, George bush, rockstar :-)
82 posted on 06/06/2003 5:32:37 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: mountaineer
I thought reports are that Bill isn't big enough to make anyone choke ;-)
83 posted on 06/06/2003 5:35:29 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: habs4ever
This isn't a bombshell because we all already know Hillary's lying. But I found this interesting tidbit in Bob Woodward's 1999 series of articles about scandals in D.C.:
(referring to a Joe Klein article about Hillary aide Maggie Williams' grueling testimony before Congress)

"They smashed up lives and didn't notice," Klein wrote.

He laid out in harsh terms how Hillary's chief of staff, Maggie Williams, had broken down in tears while testifying the previous week at the hearings chaired by Sen. Alfonse D'Amato. Williams was saddled with large legal bills, virtually abandoned by her patrons in the White House. "How could the first lady allow her chief of staff to spend $140,000 on legal fees?" Klein asked. "Why hasn't she come forward and said, 'Stop torturing my staff. This isn't about them. I'll testify. I'll make all documents available. I'll sit here and answer your stupid, salacious questions until Inauguration Day, if need be'?"

Hillary was sobbing when she called Jane Sherburne, the White House attorney in charge of scandal management.

Had Jane read the Klein column?

Yes.

"It's killing me to let this happen," Hillary said. She wanted to testify, to make it better, to take care of it. "Every bone in my body tells me that's what I should do."

She could not stand by and let Maggie be hurt so, have others dragged in.

"How is Maggie?"

Sherburne said they both knew Maggie was both vulnerable and tough. She was willing to throw herself in front of any train and get beat up.

Hillary's voice caught and she gasped in short breaths.

I swear, for the life of me, I can't think of one single instance when a conservative woman described herself as "sobbing" or "gasping for breath". These people are so, so, so....dramatic!
84 posted on 06/06/2003 6:30:05 PM PDT by Timeout (Always remember.....)
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To: Timeout
Ick, hillary! is such a user. Like a typical liberal she thinks if she feels really, really bad then she's done her part.

Now for some good news that will tick off any clinton:

June 7, 2003 -- ALBANY - President Bush would clobber former President Clinton if - by a change in the Constitution - the two could face off next year, a new poll yesterday showed.
Republican Bush would defeat Democrat Clinton 53-32 percent, according to an Opinion Dynamics Corp. poll conducted on June 3 and 4 for Fox News.

In the hypothetical Bush-Clinton matchup, 88 percent of Republicans backed Bush but only 62 percent of Democrats said they would vote for Clinton.

Almost a quarter of Democrats - 24 percent - said they would cross party lines to vote for the Republican incumbent.

But only 7 percent of Republicans said they would vote for Clinton.

The new poll, which surveyed 900 registered voters, found three-quarters of Americans favor keeping the 22nd Amendment, which limits presidents to no more than two terms.

Clinton suggested lifting the ban, but only 20 percent of Americans said they favored such a move.

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/36230.htm

85 posted on 06/07/2003 3:00:20 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Carolina
Awww, ain't it sweet? Hillary! will be slumming with the unwashed to hock her book.

HILLARY AT WAL-MART

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's Washington-area book-signing to launch publication of her memoir will not be held at one of the capital's tony book stores but at a Wal-mart in the Virginia suburbs.


Clinton is scheduled at the Fair Lakes shopping center in Fairfax County Wednesday at 7 p.m. To schedule a marketing event for a $28-a-copy book at a Wal-mart suggests publisher Simon and Schuster is going beyond the usual book-reading public to sell the million printed copies of "Living History." Wal-mart is based in Arkansas.


http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=%5CCommentary%5Carchive%5C200306%5CCOM20030607a.html


86 posted on 06/07/2003 3:51:52 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Good Morning. I'll be out most of the morning. I'm off in a bit to the County Seat to pick up some candy to throw in a parade. Our little community is holding it's annual celebration this weekend, and I'm helping with the Republican float which will be in the parade.
87 posted on 06/07/2003 5:34:00 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste great with Ketchup)
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To: Carolina; BigWaveBetty
I think so.

Chelsea and her mother wearing the same shade of lipsick is downright scary!

WalMart for a book signing? Oh, how the mighty have fallen!

Did any of you ever see the movie She-Devil? Meryl Streep's character was previously a successful romance writer who wrote a stinker of a book titled 'Love in the Rinse Cycle,' after stealing Roseanne Barr's husband, who was portrayed by Ed Begely Jr. The look on Meryl's character's face when everyone passes by her signing table is one I'd like to see on Hillary.

I suppose Hillary thinks she will endear herself to the common people by doing her little signing at WalMart. Does anyone really believe she'd be caught dead there otherwise? While she's there, perhaps a helpful sales associate could point her in the direction of cosmetics and the shampoo aisle.

88 posted on 06/07/2003 8:39:49 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: Iowa Granny
Have a great day, I hope the weather is cooperating for the parade. Yesterday was beautiful here, but the rest of this week has been dreadful. It has not been the kind of weather mothers hope for when school lets out.

Love the tag line, but that wouldn't be Heinz ketchup, would it?

89 posted on 06/07/2003 8:45:28 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: BigWaveBetty; Iowa Granny
I'm having a hard time picturing the Hildebeaste at a Wal-Mart, having to hobnob with all those working class folks who are so far beneath her royal hineyness. Someone should go up to her at the book signing and say, "Excuse me, which way to the motor oil?"

Gag alert: a flattering profile of John Edwards in the WashPost:

How did it come to be that Edwards, who just turned 50 this weekend and whose entire political career consists of one election and four-plus years in office, convinced himself that it was his duty -- or right -- to run for the White House? It is his right, he told voters during a recent New Hampshire swing, because, "I hope you agree with me this is still a country where the son of a mill worker can go toe-to-toe against the son of a president of the United States."

Big "whatever," John.

90 posted on 06/07/2003 8:47:46 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: pubmom
While she's there, perhaps a helpful sales associate could point her in the direction of cosmetics and the shampoo aisle.

LOL! Special today on Suave, Mrs. Clinton!

91 posted on 06/07/2003 8:49:55 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: pubmom
perhaps a helpful sales associate could point her in the direction of cosmetics and the shampoo aisle.

LOL! If the salesperson is really on thier toes they'll suggest one of those at home dry cleaning kits as well.

Certainly the only reason hillary would lower herself to Walmart is the 'I'm one of you' angle she's working on for the '08 election.

92 posted on 06/07/2003 8:54:25 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: All
Someone at the WashPost got a copy of Hillary's book and offers scant insight:

In the book, Clinton comes across as exasperated at times and detached at others. [Maybe the use of three ghostwriters explains why she "comes across" different ways at different points in the book] She chronicles some of her emotional experiences as if she were watching from afar. But a close reading really may provide some insight into one of the most complex characters in contemporary national politics.

Clinton appears through her writing to be able to separate the man who is her husband from the man who was the president. She shuttles back and forth from the personal to the political, without dropping a stitch. She says the couple agreed to see a marriage counselor. [She should have seen Dr. Smith and Dr. Wesson, but that's just my opinion] Keeping a stiff upper lip during such tribulations, she writes, is what one must do. She says she coped with her marital problems in the same way a forklift operator would cope with his -- you get up and get through the day. [A forklift operator? Was she thinking of her butt as she wrote this, or was this a sly move on the part of one of the ghostwriters? I mean, really, don't all of us get up and get through the day, regardless of occupation?]
full article

93 posted on 06/07/2003 8:57:01 AM PDT by mountaineer
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Liar, liar, ol' crusty pantsuit on fire:

In another apparent instance of factual dispute -- this time with Blumenthal -- memoirist Clinton "describes in bitter terms the months of chill between them afterward, never more painful than when they went to Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts for a vacation following his testimony," the AP reports. " ' Buddy, the dog, came along to keep Bill company,' she writes. 'He was the only member of our family who was still willing to.' While on the island, she felt 'nothing but profound sadness, disappointment and unresolved anger. I could barely speak to Bill, and when I did, it was a tirade.' "

But Blumenthal, on Page 465 of his book, recounts a phone call from the Clintons to his hotel room in Italy on the night of the president's Aug. 17 televised speech admitting his "inappropriate" relationship. "About ten minutes after it ended, my hotel phone rang: it was the president, asking what my reaction was," Blumenthal writes.

"I told him it was all right. Hillary asked me what I thought. I told her the same. . . . They handed the phone to James Carville and Mark Penn. . . . I could hear the president and Hillary bantering in the background. . . . They were still working as a team." Lloyd Grove, WashPost

94 posted on 06/07/2003 9:01:38 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer; pubmom; Carolina; Hillary's Lovely Legs
A friend should pull Edwards aside and tell him to stop embarrassing himself.

Great news! Barbara Bush has a book in the works. Supposed to be quite spicey.

Never mind the blockbuster autobiography by that other former first lady. We hear Barbara Bush's latest is so hot that her publisher's in-house libel lawyers are asking her to tone it down. Which makes us wonder which of the famously frank author's least favorite people should be assuming a defensive crouch or purchasing a Kevlar vest.

"Reflections," Bush's memoir of the eight years between her husband's and son's presidencies, is being published Oct. 14 by Lisa Drew/Scribner. We hear that the recently completed manuscript -- every word written by the 77-year-old wife of George Bush the elder -- contains nearly a dozen passages that have caused the lawyers heartburn. In a couple of instances, we're told, the author has agreed to changes, but in most cases, she's sticking to her guns.

Yesterday we surveyed several Bush family friends to get an idea of which people might be the best-selling author's juiciest targets. The speculation includes cartoonist Garry Trudeau and New York Times pundit Maureen Dowd[Can't wait to read what Barbara has to say about the dowd!] (relentless critics of the current President Bush), 1980 Bush campaign speechwriter turned Bill Clinton aide David Gergen, Democrat Ann Richards and independent candidate Ross Perot ("that woman" and "that horrid little man," respectively, in the Barbara Bush lexicon) and Republicans Patrick Buchanan, Steve Forbes and John McCain, who drew Bush blood in various political campaigns. WashPost

Isn't blubba's book due out around the same time?

95 posted on 06/07/2003 9:02:00 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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Good one from Wesley Pruden (excerpted):

Is she, or isn't she?

That's what all the pundits are asking this morning about Hillary Clinton's great book adventure, but they're missing the point.

Of course she's telling whoppers, but that's not news.

She — and more to the point, he — knows that the chattering class won't buy her story that she had to gulp for air, that she cried and yelled and hollered and stomped her size 10 flats when Bill finally told her that yes, the vast right-wing media conspiracy had actually got it right, he generally did wear his pants around his ankles in the Oval Office. Buddy the dog was the only member of the family who would have anything to do with the president for days, maybe weeks, afterward, so great was Hillary's fury. (Now we know why Buddy threw himself in front of the car.)

This is not the version of events as told by Sidney Blumenthal, the faithful lady-in-waiting to Hillary. link to rest of column.

96 posted on 06/07/2003 9:05:15 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty
I hope the publisher doesn't tone down Bar's book one little bit!

Gag alert: x42 gave a commencement speech at some fancy private school in Boston yesterday; more Bush bashing and rehashing of the same old "world is becoming more interdependent" theme, story here.

97 posted on 06/07/2003 9:09:51 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
I could hear the president and Hillary bantering in the background. . . . They were still working as a team."

Golly gosh! Squidy's going to be in big trouble with the beastly one!

98 posted on 06/07/2003 9:22:02 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: mountaineer; BigWaveBetty; lodwick; pubmom; *GUILD
This whole hillary book thingy will so much fun this week. Here in the local ABC news, they said, that some DC book store will start to sell her book at midnight. So if anyone wants to get her book, they better line up, HUH?????

What is she, Star Wars? I wonder if the news station will have someone out at midnight to show us how many hillary fans will line up in the rain to buy her book? NONE, ZERO, LOL,LOL!

99 posted on 06/07/2003 9:24:38 AM PDT by Teacup (Bush, Leadership, Morality, Integrity)
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To: mountaineer
Really bizarre. "When John gives you a hug, you stay hugged."

What on earth has the author of this piece been doing?

100 posted on 06/07/2003 9:26:31 AM PDT by pubmom
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