Are we "devolving"?

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[Charlie OK]

A friend of mine brought up an interesting point that I thought might bring about a good discussion:

With all of the regulations that have been put in place over the last 100 years or so in order to protect us, are people who would have ordinarily died from stupidity, thus strengthening the gene pool, being able to reproduce when maybe they shouldnt? Thus making society even stupider than it was before?

I see morons who get their kids tattooed at 6 months, women with multiple kids by multiple dads who will be on the government dole their whole lives, and I have to say to myself "These people would have died already if not for the government protecting them". 150 years ago, these were the kind of people who would have gotten their heads cut off by a combine or would have fallen in a mine shaft, or been run over by a train.

If you lived to be 65 back in the 1800's, either you were extremely smart, extremely strong or extremely resourceful. People who had the common sense to not try to outrun a train probably passed this on to their children.

Nowadays, people who dont wanna work or are too stupid can just sit back and collect their government paycheck, and squirt out many kids who are probably going to do the same. Compare that to many people who are intelligent enough to reach the highest levels of education and career, and either wait too long and can't have children, or decide not to have them altogether.

I just realized that I am treading mighty close to advocating population control, but that is not my point at all. I will say it is probably not a good thing that smarter people dont have more children, while welfare queens and idiots cant seem to stop.

[Charlie OK]

Are some laws infringing on the laws of nature?

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[discostu]

Are we not men?

[dark_lord]

Read "The Marching Morons" by C. M. Kornbluth, published in 1951 -- if you can find an extant copy in print.

[GovernmentShrinker]

Yep, and it's a very serious issue that needs major attention. Governments are increasingly spending a huge portion of tax revenues on battling nature's wise tendency to favor the smartest and strongest. Ever wonder why there are massively expensive laws mandating unlimited expenditures to educate dimwitted and mentally defective children to the absolute limit of their potential, but no such laws for ordinary children or unusually bright children?

If ever there was a grand socialist plot, the ever-growing package of schemes favoring the less competent at the expense of the more competent, is it. Evolution is the tool through which God creates, and trying to blot it out is the same as trying to blot out God. I seriously wonder sometimes if the religious creationist nuts aren't largely incited and funded by socialists.

[concerned about politics]

I heard on the radio today in the car that there's a new liberal fetish starting. Self amputation. This is no joke.
They have no reasons they can give for doing it.
They use knives, chain saws, and whatever method they need depending on the body part being removed.
Next thing you know, they'll demand to be considered "normal" and start asking for elitist laws to glorify them the same as other left wing mental mutants. They'll demand to be boy scout leaders or something!
There were very few liberals in the past. Everyone worked, or they didn't eat- so they worked. Government wasn't their pagan God delivering manna like today..
Since liberalism set in, we have all kinds of losers following their fautly wisdom of death and dispare. We have a nation full of left wing voters. Drug addicts, pregnant teens, Homos riddled with aids, NOW dykes, dumbed down kids, muslim terrorist supporters, liberal wackos of every shape and color praying to trees.
Why is America so screwed up? Go to the left. You'll find all the answers you need there. Remember to wear a condom.

[concerned about politics]

Are we they "devolving"?

Yes.

[concerned about politics]

I seriously wonder sometimes if the religious creationist nuts aren't largely incited and funded by socialists.

We were created. It's in the Constitution. Our founding fathers weren't socialists.

[EggsAckley]

I must admit that your query is one that I wrestle with frequently. The schools are dumbing down the children, the freeloaders are encouraged to produce more children to be dumbed down. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. The "meek" are already inheriting the earth.

As to the people who should or shouldn't be reproducing, just look at it as breeding from the bottom. If we live long enough, we may see a whole civilization incapable of wiping their own "whatevers." THAT'S when it will change. And the "fit" will survive again.

[GATOR NAVY]

[discostu]

I'm glad somebody got that. Once again they were well ahead of their time.

Great tag BTW.

[GATOR NAVY]

I saw Devo at the EM club Naval Station Long Beach about '88 or'89. They were pretty much past their popularity by then and the crowd was maybe 50 people. We were right in front and had a blast. Great show.

[concerned about politics]

The "meek" are already inheriting the earth.

In the Bible, "the meek" are the rightous. The social paracites are not considered rightous. Remember the "If a man doesn't work, he doesn't eat?"
There's also another teaching about giving a man a fish. He'll just keep living off you forever. The Bible says to get him on his feet via rightous teaching, and he'll be able to care for himself. His transformation to rightous living would make him want to care for himself rather than steal another man wages and live in sloth.
Democrat policies are anti-Christ, and the social paracites are not the meek. They're the minions.
mmmmm-k?

[concerned about politics]

PS....
That's why liberals and the majority of the left wing hates the Bible. They want it gone. It exposes them, and speaks out against them.

[EggsAckley]

Your are absolutely right in both posts. The "meek" are the ones supporting the parasites. It can't last forever, but I'm afraid it will take a long time for it to be fixed.

[joybelle]

The population in the west is on a great decline. In a few years there will be only two employed workers for each person on S.S., or disability. Meanwhile the muslim population, since the breakup of communism, is growing by leaps and bounds in Europe. Charles Krauthammer warned of it about 5 years ago. I believe Pat Buchanan wrote a book about it. BTW, I can easily count 6 people on disability, only one of whom is unfit to work.

[joybelle]

I believe the MIT professor Pinkus mentioned the Bell Curve and how the authors were ahead of their time. His book deals with heredity versus environment. He goes for heredity.

[OldPossum]

I certainly have no powers of foreseeing the future but I am so glad that I made the decision in my late teens to never have children. One of the reasons was that I thought that life was a pretty tough proposition--which I still believe. To be sure, it has its pleasant times, many of which I subsequently enjoyed, and now that I am retired I no longer have to contend with some of the worse aspects such as unemployment or fear of losing one's job.

The article above is more proof that things will be worse, not better as the state gathers more and more power over the people.

[aberaussie]

About tattooing babies, this from snopes.com:

Claim: The Baby Ink body art chain specializes in tattooing babies and children.

Status: False.

Origins: Yet another web site has sprung up for the sole purpose of shocking the unsuspecting: Baby Ink, purporting to represent "a body art chain to cater to toddlers and children" where babies as young as 6 months can receive tattoos. This one is easily exposed as a leg-pull: The domain registration info is bogus (an address of "1234 ABC Lane" and a non-working phone number).

None of the putative Baby Ink locations listed on the web site include phone numbers, nor is any address or phone number information for "Baby Ink" available through directory assistance or phone directories in the cities named. Why go to all the trouble of operating a business and putting up a web site, only to make it impossible for potential customers to contact you? (Hint: actually listing phone numbers would have made this site too easy to identify as a hoax, so they were omitted.)

The addresses listed for the various Baby Ink locations are phony as well. 743 Rainier Ave. in Seattle is the address of a Wal-Mart store, as is the 2301 Wellesley Ave. address in Spokane. 4101 Crenshaw Blvd. in Los Angeles is a Macy's department store.

The web site of the babyink.com domain's registrant, Channel933, confirms that the Baby Ink site was an April Fool's joke.

Last updated: 7 July 2003